Awning and non-awning pitches

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  • young thomas
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    edited July 2019 #32

    thanks for the replysmile

    so best if we get rid of HS thenwink

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2019 #33

    Ah, there's the dilemma - have you ever stayed at Cirencester Park? I'd pay a bit more for some of the lovely grass pitches at the top end of the site than some of the smaller HS pitches,  especially those near the college. It's going to get mighty complicated!

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2019 #34

    Quite agree the grass pitches are nice up by the "top" toilet block ,they  could command a "premium" and handy for the big dog fieldcool

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2019 #35

    M yes, we have....a nice site, apart from the horrendous entrance driveway IIRC....?

    as a grass lover, I can see the merit in a HS...and it's premium ratingwink

    there are many HS lovers on here who hate grass with a vengeance and wouldn't be seen dead on such a second rate surfacewink

    price difference QED?smile

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2019 #36

    The entrance is no worse than the lane to Black Knowl surprised,the speed humps are really nastyundecided

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  • young thomas
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    edited July 2019 #38

    never been, just read it's pretty grim.....as you say maybe no worse but, to me, pretty grim...frown

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2019 #39

    Some years ago it was £1000 or more if the ground needed a lot of work to get it as level as the area permitted

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  • JollyKernow
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    edited July 2019 #41

    Evening

    I think you'll find that present day prices are slightly more than that JV. Try more in the line of 3k for a basic hardstanding if there's already a tarmac road. If there's not you can add on £80 per meter to get to it. That was 2017 prices.  Don't know the cost of planning but I know it's a contributing factor when deciding where and when to put hardstands in.

    Grass any day for mecool

    JK

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #42

    interesting, so say a site is open for 8 months (March - October) that is at say £25 per night per pitch income averaged out (?), that's a possible rough figure of £6000 income, now if it's a grass pitch then maybe it is out of use for 4 months? that means a loss of £3000 pounds, turn it into a HS and you can use it all year and it sort of pays for itself in one year, and makes more income the following year.

    Yes I know these are rough figures and maybe you won't fill every pitch all the time (well some sites manage it though) and the average price per night might be wrong but you can scale it over two years or even have the site open all year/longer, but it gives you an idea of why HS are so attractive to the club?

    Yes by all means charge for a HS over grass, won't worry me on a number of levelssmile but it may worry the club when it doesn't fill a site since all the HS are taken and people go elsewhere, whereas now they'll take a chance on getting one and take grass if nothing is else is available when they arrive?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2019 #43

    Grass any day for me

    And me laughing

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  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2019 #45

    Just to make the idea of charging a bigger amount for awning pitches than non-awning ones, what would happen at sites such as Bunree where the loch side pitches are the ones in great demand, yet they are non-awning?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #46

    thanks DD, appreciated

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #47

    you could call them pitches with outstanding views, high demand pitches, waterside pitches, special interest pitches...

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2019 #48

    It would take a lot of getting back with no price differential!!wink

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2019 #49

    say a site is open for 8 months (March - October) that is at say £25 per night per pitch income averaged out (?), that's a possible rough figure of £6000 income, now if it's a grass pitch then maybe it is out of use for 4 months?

    You are inferring that a grass pitch would only be in use for 4 months a year, what a load of rubbish. Perhaps over the winter period it may be closed for 4 months, if it was an all year site, but I suspect that the vast majority of grass pitches would be in use for 7 months of the year at least.

     

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  • JVB66
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    edited July 2019 #51

    And with those sort prices now it shows how prices have increased(my some years ago was early 2000s )so prices in just one area have increased so much in about 15yrs puts the current site prices into more perspective,surprised 

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2019 #52

    Same as hotels charge more for room/pitches with a "sea" viewcool

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #53

    You are inferring that a grass pitch would only be in use for 4 months a year, what a load of rubbish.

    Yes indeed - I've been on a number of sites where the all the grass pitches have not been used at all! 

    And no need to be so rude, I did use a question mark and based my sums on a March to October openingundecided

  • huskydog
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    edited July 2019 #54

    I bet Fawlty Towers do cool

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2019 #55

    I've been on a number of sites where the all the grass pitches have not been used at all!

    For 4 moths out of 8?

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2019 #56

    Yeah, but you also get the leaning tower of Pisa and herds of wildebeest to look at out of your window too! surprised

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2019 #57

    When you mentioned it was eye watering I thought it would be far more that £3000 which I consider quite reasonable given that the pitch will be available throughout the year and require minimum maintenance. Given the nature of the ground conditions and grass pitches are likely to be out of service for some of the year be that because of very wet conditions or the fact that they have been damaged by previous users I would have thought investment in hardstanding would allow the site the opportunity to pay down that investment in a few years?

    David

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2019 #58

    With some mixed pitch sites open march to October I doubt CS is that far out.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #59

    No, for all the time the site had been open.

    The grass pitches at Troutbeck Head were not used at all for a number of years. The pitches are being used now as they have been converted to HSsmile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #60

    you forgot Krakatoa smile

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2019 #61

    We do not mind either type of pitch but grass pitches (when in use) are fine if the mowers have grass pickup facilities,but as on several sites we have visited this year grass has been even with hand mowers on one site and they were not mulching deckssurprised