Club sites
What determines the nightly rate at club sites? I have just searched my two local sites, for the same weekend one is £36 for two nights, the other £47??
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I don't think anyone on here (not a staff member) would know how the pricing works for diferent sites?
Maybe the on site facilities? How do the two sites differ? If you let us know which sites you are talking about we might help a bit more?
At the end of the day the club sets its prices and all we have to do is decide if we want to pay them.
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There does occasionally seem to be a price increase if the site has been recently refurbished, although this is not always the case.
The honey pots do not seem to be priced as high as they could be, given there popularity.
Some unpopular sites seem to be priced rather high.
Frankly it's a bit of a mystery.🤔
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It could be due to any number of factors, Chrissie. We're no wiser than you. In fact, we're more in the dark than you because you have the advantage of knowing which sites are involved so you can hazard an educated guess.
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£18 per night for a club site?
Has to be a bargain unless it's a "no-facs" one, in which case it's a rip-off.0 -
Not a rip off CY. A rip off is when you don't see the final cost until time to pay or if it is expensive and there are no alternatives. With a CC site you know the price before booking and can consider other alternatives. I am happy to pay £18 for a well maintained non facility site if its location suits
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?????, £18 for a site with normally 24hr on site staff a rip off? have you not yet come into the world of min wage and out sourced work that has been forced on to companies these days,
It not like banking where it is high profit for minimal outlay
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That’s the crux of it and unless we know which sites are cited, it’s impossible to guess at the reasons for pricing.
I’m paying £18 at the moment but it’s no more relevant that David’s example so I won’t bore you with details.
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Just to keep a balance in the "real world " , found a site in Slovenia ,Terme Catez between August and December is 44 euro a night , and there's me thinking its soooo cheap out there
back to over here ,if it's a location I want ,I'll pay it
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One site may have two wardens, the other may have four. If the Club is charging those staff costs to each separate site then one may be cheaper to operate than the other.
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The site charge is made up of many different things. but they all add up to the cost of running the site and that of individual pitches.
Probably the location has the biggest effect. This determines the land values which reflects the cost of either purchase or rent.
The site will pay council tax which again varies by council and location within the area. These two are enormously variable as city centre sites like York Rowntree will have very high overheads and country sites in m ore remote spots like Englethwaite Hall will pay far less.
Facilities also cost so again Englethwaite Hall will save as it has no toilet block. Hillhead has most and is expensive, nearby Steamer Key even has no hook ups and is far cheaper.
There are other variables which will even include the size of the site and its useage and staff costs.
Basically you need to add up all the anticipated costs for the site and see what income is needed and base the costs on that.
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I just about disagree with everything posted.
Coca Cola is the example I used to explain to the kids why a thing is priced at what it is.
Nothing to do with cost plus a set percentage profit. Its purely down to how much they can charge, which is in my opinion why the club or any leisure outlet, company charge what they do.
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My father taught me a valuable early budgeting lesson as a child. He said that knowing the price of something is very easy. Understanding and appreciating the value of something is a whole lot different.
While ever there are members who perceive value for money at a given site, and are willing to pay what it costs, then a business (in this case, The Club) will sell that site for as much as it can. If visitors start finding better value for money elsewhere, and attendances drop, then a change in the price might occur. (Which it does, hence the MWD and other offers).
We have never just blindly booked Club Sites in preference to any other sort of site, and we shop around in terms of arranging where we stay. Sometimes, it has even been better value to take a cottage for a week.
But thousands of happy Club members do little beyond staying on Club Sites and and consider them excellent value for money, so the Club can maintain what it is now offering. Until the questions around prices actually cause thousands of members to alter the places they stay, the status quo will be maintained.
X is the price because Y are happy to pay it, and Z (Z being costs covered, plus whatever else the Club wants from its Sites) is currently on target.
Simplified, but that’s how it works.😁
Edit: rather naughtily, I will also add that the last few generations of English persons are now becoming used to blindly paying what is asked (be it fuel, energy costs, house prices, mobile phones, bank accounts, rail travel, holiday prices, caravan and motorhome prices, car prices, etc.....) and seem unable or unwilling to look longer term. So the price of such commodities, now almost wholly provided by private companies, whose sole motivation is profit, are ruling the roost, and the few who question if this gives value are in the minority! 😉
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I must say I have often thought the same. On a previous trip we stay at Bridlington followed by Poolsbrook Country Park. There as a £10 difference in price for sites with similar quality of facilities. I suspect the main difference is down to location, location, location. As nice as Poolsbrook is its hinterland is probably not as popular as that of Bridlington. So popularity and location has a price!!!
David
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The question asked by the OP had little to do with the actual price of sites, more about why two sites close to each other had such different prices. But we still don't know which the two sites are so, sorry Chrissie, it's difficult to answer your question.
I have to smile, though, when threads like this are diverted into how, supposedly, club sites are way more expensive than others in the UK and certainly outrageously expensive compared to European sites. We don't tour Europe (in the van) but over here we pay the going rate for sites where we want to be. By mixing club sites with C&CC sites, CLs and, occasionally, small commercial sites, we keep our average cost down to around £20 a night. So we can "afford" to use "expensive" club sites like Bridlington and Putts Corner without coming close to breaking the bank!
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As regards wardens ,when wtd came along ,both clubs took { perks } of them , so it was virtually cost nuetral , Regards ,take the dog brilliant observation , correct all thatchers fault ??
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On large sites on the cc network in the UK the senior warden couples are on about £40,000 a year pro rata between them,then there could be another three couples needed to cover the hours needed under the WTD
Rates as relayed to me via retired staff who are still in the loop and "on call"to cover shortages
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I don’t see why not. One of the first questions anyone interested in becoming a warden would ask the club would be about pay rates.
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