Motorhome waste point
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the aire at Beauvoir is a good one: modern, clean and built for ease of motorhome use....it's a simple example of 'how to do it' without any huge expense....just a good understanding.
weve been past it on the bikes many times but not stayed there, but have used the Haliotis site a few km down the road at Pontorson, and they have a two berth MHSP built along the same lines.
...and of course, visitors can just pull up and use the MHSP for a tiny fee (€2 or so...) as guests aren't impacted due the the sensible location and decent space.
good design need only cost the same as poor design.
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...and of course, visitors can just pull up and use the MHSP for a tiny fee (€2 or so...) as guests aren't impacted due the the sensible location and decent space.
good design need only cost the same as poor design.
Good design may not be dearer but the 'decent space' can be
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well, I assume that the club could manage 'decent space' for one well designed MHSP on each site?
if they can't manage this, bit of a damp squib re: the '.....and Motothome Club' part of the name?
too much to ask for a £25-£30+ fee?
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isn't it what DD pointed out above...
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The main difference between UK sites and French Aires is that the Aire was specifically built for Motorhome use and drainage while UK sites were primarily designed for Caravan users.
Now, after the name change, the Club are trying to catch you and improve where possible.
But doing major drainage work on sites such as Chatsworth, open all year and high capacity usage, is not one for the faint hearted.
Paying premium price and having a focal point of the narrow drive round the site dug up for some time is not good for business or the frayed temper of visitors.
Just as an aside - in the MSM area we use the Aire at Hirel for overnighting (€5 collected) with two free Bornes, bread delivered and the bay across the road.
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lol, I've had several (and Champagne).....my Dads 90th birthday party this aft.....(not driving btw
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Converting existing Motorhome waste drains into drive over grille types is not Major drainage work, a couple of hours with a mini digger then 24hours or so while the concrete and tarmac goes hard.
Moreton in Marsh were doing theirs whilst we were there a few weeks ago.
Chirk needs it doing too. extra heavy hatches there.Hold on back....help is coming.
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That might explain the terrible drain hatch covers at Chirk...no visible sign of any way to lift them. Hold on those arent rivet heads, but coach bolt heads...which you are supposed to pull out and use as handles !!!! whoever thought of that one ?
Several drained out onto the tops of the covers !
and I do not blame them. Plus they are back breakingly heavy....roll on grilles.
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The site was at bleak Leek .... you didn't need a step ladder to get onto the drain, but the grid did appear to higher than the surrounding road surface. I add that I only observed this as I drove passed in my car on the way back to my caravan 🙄
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The description on the web site is a little ambiguous, they all seem to be described as:-
Drive over waste disposal for motorhomes
To me the term suggests the grid type. I don't regard driving over a manhole, which then has to be extracted from under the MH as Drive over.
I presume the phrase is historic, from when not all sites had a manhole system. Now it really needs changing to drive over grid, where these have been installed.
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I can remember a time, when I first started with tents and later caravans, and before the aqua-roll and waste-master had been invented. In those days people used to carry 2 or 5 gallon fresh water and 2 or 5 gallon waste water to and from the taps and disposal points, sometimes using luggage trolleys. In those days the waste drains were sometimes up to knee high, to aid the disposal of a carried waste container.
Along came the advent of the aqua-roll and waste-master, which required a ground level waste grill. As I recall all the higher level waste disposal points were removed fairly quickly to accommodate these new fangled wheeled waste containers which many caravanners had bought.
The need for drive over waste disposal for modern motor homes is exactly the same, but for MHs rather than caravans.. The point being, that site facilities are changed to suit changing demands, and the quicker things are changed, the happier people are with those provided facilities. I can also remember a time when 240 mains for a caravan was unheard of, and that too was introduced fairly quickly, to meet increasing demand. The problem we have here, is that this club is rather too slow to get things fully sorted on all of their sites.
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I would put it the other way round. It seems very adequate over some I have observed. It's about a 40mm outlet, with only a short run from an insulated tank. Therefore empties quickly and should not have any freezing issues. It even comes with a 1.8 metre flexible extension. Unfortunately none of that helps lift the lids.😉☹️
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Is it because its more of wimpy/older owners that are having problems as since M/Cs owners were accepted as members in the 1970s the "problem" has only in the last couple of years
P.s it took a couple of days per MC service point to be installed at Clumber Park as all the waste/water supplies needed altering
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Might be my perception but on CC sites MH owners certainly seem to be a greater proportion geriatric than those with caravans.
Last time we were at Clumber the warden mentioned they were putting the grids in. If it only takes a couple of days hopefully other sites will rapidly follow. The cost has got to be less than the claim for my bad back.😉
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Steve, and others, have an extra extension hose which does help with 'reach' but how can this 'improvement' assist with the removal of heavy, awkward manhole covers?
the issues of inadequate waste disposal points include, poor location and access, heavy lids and more.
a metre of flexi pipe isnt the one stop answer you keep banging on about...
the club needs to get on and sort this ASAP....
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Continually having a dig at motorhomers, even with the added "emoji" possibly means you have no practical input towards the present situation, indeed you gave up your motorhome because you said you found things were difficult. Why not leave motorhomers to discuss this matter as for many the heavy lids and often awkward drive ins on disposal points are a genuine talking point and it will be a lot better when improvements are made.
I'm glad to hear it only took a couple of days to fix the new Clumber Park outlet, that sounds good.
Campervans and motorhomes have been around for a very long time even if the club has been slow to accommodate them.
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JV, you shock me. Only a few days ago you were saying that health issues might force you to return to a MH but now you insult those who have. Remind me to call you wimpy if/when you do it 🤨
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