Motorhome waste point

dougA
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edited May 2019 in Motorhomes #1

Just back from Stonehaven club site. Excellent site all round and very well maintained by the wardens 👍.

While at the above site on the day of departure I noticed 2 motorhomes drive over the motorhome waste point and started to empty there waste water with the drain cover still closed. When I empty my waste water at the drain I lift off the drain cover to let the water go straight into the drain then replace the drain cover when finished.

What is the correct procedure when there is no grid and it’s a wast point with a cover over it?

I also had a polite word with a gentleman whom had lifted the waste point drain cover and emptied his toilet waste down the waste drain 🤔.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2019 #2

    The covers need to be lifted otherwise the waste water floods the area and may not drain away. These older drains are gradually being replaced with the easier to use drive over grids.

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2019 #3

    I also had a polite word with a gentleman whom had lifted the waste point drain cover and emptied his toilet waste down the waste drain 🤔.
     

    Likely goes to the same sewer run

  • rayjsj
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    edited May 2019 #4

    Must admit I am very grateful for the newer drive over grids, i was finding some of the drain covers harder to lift these days(new heart valve and bad back). Much easier to position over too, seen many in almost impossible places to get a vans drain hose over...much better , be glad when they are all done. Drain covers are often airtight, so not lifting them is not an option...sadly.

  • dougA
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    edited May 2019 #5

    I was beginning to doubt myself when I noticed twice motorhomes emptying without lifting drain cover off.

    Yes the new grid waste is definitely the way to go.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2019 #6

    I have seen people do that so you are not alone. However it might hide a problem with people being able to open those drain covers. I struggle and purchased a long handled drain puller from Ebay. It would help if the Club attached a knotted rope pull which would make it easier to remove the drain but I suspect that might be a H&S issue as it might become a trip hazard?

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2019 #7

    There is a new dog wash and cycle wash  facilities at Clumber Park and noted there is now a large sign on both asking people to not empty there toilet cassette  down them  

  • cyberyacht
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    edited May 2019 #8

    The ones I have encountered have a lip on the lid which requires lifting the whole thing to be able to drag it clear.

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2019 #9

    They are certainly awkward. Our van has the waste half way along the side. Therefore driving past and then moving back a foot, as I've seen those with outlets on the rear doing, is not an option. I find lifting the lid, which is partially under the van, can be a challenge. Particularly as you have just driven over it. Using the flexible extension supplied is an option, but can mean the van is then obstructing traffic.

    Roll on the roll out of the new grids.😀

  • Aspenshaw
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    edited May 2019 #10

    David, more likely to be Health & Safety because for the last 47 years I'm aware of, lifting heavy loads - and these lids are heavy for some - requires a straight back and your legs taking the strain - usually by bending at the knees and then straitening out as you rise. There is a growing risk that as membership grows, especially the retirees who often buy motorhomes, somebody is going to have a serious back injury lifting the lid.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2019 #11

    Yes I remember my H&S training and training others. The trouble is that 12 years after finishing work my body doesn't always comply with the training!!! It does make you wonder if the Club have actually done an H&S assessment of the dangers of lifting heavy drain covers? Its good to see the gradually introduction of the open grills but it does really need speeding up.

    David

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2019 #12

    Steve, our outlet is just behind the rear offside wheel, so a tad easier than yours, but the pipe will send the water sideways so would land neatly into an open hole when parked alongside. this makes it easier to lift the lid, though even then they are awkward to manage. like you, we also have an extension hose to ise if necessary.

    if it means causing a short obstruction, then so be it....I'm not trying to lift these things when (I'm) not sensibly positioned....a pulled muscle (or worse) waiting to happen....frown

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #13

    I agree with you, BB. We need to stop where it’s best to make sensible use of the drain, including lifting the cover, which often means going the wrong way on club sites (both clubs) or stopping in an inconvenient way. So be it. 

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited June 2019 #14

    This is one of the two grates (the other is to the right of this grate) at the Motorhome point at Chatsworth.

    Correct positioning is required, the grate itself isn't too heavy but dodgy knees don't help us older Members.

    When, or if, a full length grate is implemented it will be much appreciated  - on all sites.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #15

    That’s pretty appalling, K&M, and I note the lack of manoeuvring space.😣 

    I’ve used the new drive over grids at Chester Fairoaks. It’s a vast improvement with no lids to lift.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #16

    We used that one a Chatsworth ,but then we had modified the waste outlet on our Autocruise to make it more user friendly, so we did not need the "dance"to position it by thenwink.

    Ferry Meadows is a problem for somesurprised

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited June 2019 #17

    I altered the way our waste water was emptied, it was a central outlet, by adding a flexible pipe to allow about 5 - 6 feet of 'wriggle' room.

    The Clumber and Poolsbrook sites have the full width grates and are a vast improvement on Chatsworth.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #18

    Similar to what I did with ours ,which negated the need to precisely line up with the cover, as the pipe was now long enough 

  • dougA
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    edited June 2019 #19

    That looks a tight squeeze for my offside waste pipe on a 7.4 mtr van with a long overhang.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #20

    Ours has a pipe very similar to that as a standard fitting and it does help.

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  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #22

     Bit different than the average CC site though

     

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #24

    If only either the cc Ltd or the ccc Ltd or any other companies  who own/run sites could afford an area that big in the UK ,but then if they could it would also be at UK prices to usewink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2019 #25

    The MSP on the last CC site we were looked to be a little higher than the road it was set in 🤐 ..... honest .... and this was a newly installed service point.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #26

    And that site was?surprised

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #27

    Was that the Electric Brae Campsite? 

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2019 #29

    That was when we had the leaf blowing saga ..... 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2019 #30

    Does it matter? 🤔

  • ABM
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    edited June 2019 #31

    I'm still carrying my drain adapter - made from 3 foot or so of square plastic guttering - cheap, cheerful, efficient & so very easy to use & keep clean laughingwink