New Zealand Trip

Grandad Golfer
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We are going on the 36 day Club trip to NZ in March. From those who have done the trip in the past I would like some helpful feedback - not criticism of the trip, please

What type of suitcases did you take (we are having the Mercedes 5 berth, so won't have room for solid cases)

What are the laundry rooms like at the sites?

Was there anything you wish you had taken that you didn't?

Any other relevant info / tips would be welcome.

Did you take much cash or use cards?

Thanks in advance

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  • Mitsi Fendt
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    edited October 2018 #2

    Hi Bazzruk. I can answer 2 of your questions having hired a camper van in New Zealand 2 years ago. Laundry facilities in all the camp sites we used were more than adequate. Cards are universally accepted in New Zealand. How much cash you take is a personal choice. You will find your supermarket shopping to be dearer than it is here so budget for that.

  • lornalou1
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    edited October 2018 #3

    Check out "Travelling K" on the youtube channel, she a Kiwi who lives in a touring caravan and loads of info about the sites and places to visit. Lovely lass

  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2018 #4

    Wow lucky you ☺. Our daughter lives in NZ so we are quite often back and to! We have hired motorhomes from the airport on several occasions.

    Luggage is now large soft holdalls, they can be emptied into the cupboards and collapsed flat to store under a bench seat. We have even taken a Fisher Price dolls house, that was our daughters for our granddaughters, so that will give you an idea of size 😉.

    Campsites are great with good facilities including camp kitchens where you can cook and eat should you wish. They generally have fridges and freezers for your use too. Food to be labelled and dated! Bbq's, some free some charge to cook on. 

    Money get yourself commission free cards. They are very card or entitled,  vending machines take them! If a bank over there charges, withdraw lots in one go. We have always found Kiwi Bank, equilivilent of the post office free.

    Supermarkets are great with fantastic selection. Pak'Save are cheaper, Countdown, an Oz company pricier. Most things are more costly there and NZ $ has been sliding down so good exchange rates at the mo. Has been $2 to £1 in the last week, best we got earlier this year  $1.88 so keep watching.

    Be prepared to declare anything organic so pack it where you know it is. They are VERY HOT on it, every item is scanned to check and sniffer dogs patrol the queues. Even things like lavender bags, sweets etc etc. They want no smoking by 2020 but heavy duty if you take in over the allowance which is very little.

    Supermarkets on the industrial parts as you drive off from hire companies. Ask for directions. Folk returning motorhomes have to empty their stores so check what they have left. Washing liquids, toilet rolls, condiments etc. There are lots of folks with surplus produce for sale in front of their property too as you travel around.

    Good sun glasses are a must! As is sunscreen and insect repellant if you're out and about.

    Enjoy. Happy to help if you have further questions.

     

  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2018 #5

    Forgot to add that on our last trip my luggage didn't turn up for 3 days!

    Because we were travelling a day or two after Christmas and we had, almost last minute, we extra visitors for the festive period 😲😲😲 we packed while we had the opportunity. Normally we share cases between us for just such an incident. Naturally this time we didn't. Luckily my sandals were in OH case, I fitted in his shorts and I had dressed in layers, we left very early when it was below 0c. So a trip to KMART,  Primary type store, tided me over 😉.

    From what we can gather, friends in NZ who run a campsite said it had been very bad recently. All airlines involved! I wasn't alone, at least one cage full hadn't been transferred to ongoing flight. It comforted somewhat to know I wasn't alone. Some couples had no luggage arrive. Our flight rinds also said very hard to get luggage to catch you up if you're touring around.

    There was compensation for late arrival and replacement items. I was told to claim it when I flew out - 3 months later. I did but that involved queues and form filling outside the main terminal and payment at a finance desk in the terminal. So I ended up leaving NZ with quite a lot of NZ $ which I can use next time. But you could loose out in the exchange! 

    So I'd ensure you have spare undies, travelling toiletries etc in your hand luggage. I always do and it proved useful. I was stressed and know my way around and had an address and kiwi phone number to give in when registering lost luggage but after a delayed take off after 29 hours plus intransit, it wasn't nice!

    Buying a local SIM saves on phone calls. Very reasonable tariffs.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2018 #6

    Bazzeruk, If you are young, or tough, or flying in Business Class you may cope with a flight to New Zealand without a break midway, but otherwise I would suggest a two day stopover on the way - we have done that on different occasions in mid range hotels in Hong Kong, Singapore and Bangkok. They all have different attractions. 

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  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2018 #8

    If you can get a few days stopover lovely. My preference is 10 days 😂 but it does add to the cost! We have done always different layover. A few days stopover, 6 hours in Singapore airport is great 6 gardens, 2 outside, swimming pool etc. Down to 1 hour, that's always resulted in the onward flight being held so off of one straight onto another! 3 is great, long enough to stretch your legs before reboarding. But this sort of stopover adds to the length of time between beds 😉. Personally I find the return flight much tougher jetlag wise so maybe stopover both ways!

    Modern air travel isn't so bad, we only do economy - could go better but that's fewer trips 😲. Noise cancelling headphones if you have them help. Just rest and chill, plenty of in-flight entertainment without your own books music etc. It'll be warm and sunny when you arrive and that helps a lot.

    If you're going with the club these decisions may have been made by the trip?

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited October 2018 #9

    Thanks for info re luggage - EE cover New Zealand so phone not an issue, but thanks anyway

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited October 2018 #10

    Trip already booked and we will be away from the grandchildren long enough as it is. When we booked it we didn't know we would have a new one arriving in February so pleased we didn't book the extra time away - we have a few hours in Singapore. Thanks for reminder re headphones

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited October 2018 #11

    Flight already booked - we will be flying premium economy so that should help

     

  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2018 #12

    Congratulations on the forthcoming new addition.

    Once you're in Singapore airport get a map of the airport so you can find your way around. I think you can get it online. 😃 LINK 

    Their flower displays are amazing throughout the airport not not just the gardens. If you're going Singapore Airlines, Air NZ are part of the same group now, you used to be able to leave the airport and catch their free buses for a bit of sightseeing.

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited October 2018 #13

    What about clothing? - from your experience, (I don't trust weather reviews / forecasts)  what should we need at that time of year? If wet, is it still warm? What about evening temps - we like to sit outside.  - is it more reliable than UK weather?

    Also, I understand they are very strict about taking in walking boots - concerned about spores?

    Are you allowed to take any food, perhaps like coffee or tea, salt and pepper. I know we could buy that when we are there but my wife is very particular about her coffee and tea!!

    Thanks for info on airport :) 

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited October 2018 #14

    Could you explain this a bit more please?

    "Money get yourself commission free cards. They are very card or entitled, vending machines take them! If a bank over there charges, withdraw lots in one go. We have always found Kiwi Bank, equivalent of the post office free."

    Did you mean very card orientated?

    What are commission free cards? - Do you mean Credit cards that don't charge for foreign transaction (post office?)

    Are you saying KIwi are like Sainsburys - no commission charges on currency exchange?

    Thanks again

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2018 #15

    Weather varies very much from south to north and west to east. It will be cool, wet and windy in Queenstown (west coast of South Island) and seriously cold if you really going high to the glaciers in the Southern Alps, but probably warm and sunny in the far north and Bay of Islands. . 

    Food regulations and the need to declare it all on arrival are explained clearly if you Google 'Can I take food to New  Zealand' 

    Will you have the opportunity or need for walking boots on an organised tour? Is there not a kit list from Club HQ for tour members? 

    I hope it all goes well. 

     

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  • dunelm
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    edited October 2018 #17

    You don't need to be concerned about suitcases!

    We  are in our 60s and spent 32 nights in NZ in a "hippie camper", under 5 metres in length ( a small Toyota) and had no problems with ordinary suitcases. In our van we stored them on the front seat at night and travelled with them in the back so you should have no storage problems with a 5 berth van!

    Google will give you details of the nearest supermarket to your van pick up point or first camp site. Don't take any food into NZ. It is not worth having to dispose of items or have to declare some and  be held up. It really is easy to buy everything you or your wife could possibly want in NZ .

    If you have walking boots/trail shoes disinfect them and put them in a plastic bag. 

    Before going to the first supermarket we made a list of everything we needed so we didn't forget any basics whilst shopping. 

    Camp kitchens and laundries were generally excellent.

    We did this trip ourselves with no problems. I think you are being over anxious, especially as you have a tour leader.

     

  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2018 #18

    Clothing - I'd say layers but shorts and tshirts days and evenings. A pair of full trousers, a fleece/jumper for cooler evenings or trips on the water. Dress is very casual over there 😉. My sun dresses get good outings 😂. Waterproof jacket acts as wind stopper too! We were there end December to mid March this year, more wind and rain than we've had before but not cold, even had the tail end of 2 cyclones, downgraded by the time they hit land but lots of trees down. We've had strong damaging winds before in March. We did their winter in 2016 OH stayed in shorts most days. Wind from the south very chilly like from the east here.  We're usually around the middle of the North Island.

    Walking boots - ensure you have washed the soles and polished well if appropriate! Pack near the top of your case, they WILL be inspected. They are very bio-security conscious! In fact you'll see signs asking you to clean your boots between walking trails in the same way that canoes etc and fishing gear should be cleaned between lakes. I'd say substainal footwear are a must if you want to do walking trails or wildlife scanctuarys.

    Keep a pen handy in your hand luggage you will have to complete a landing card, this will ask about walking boots and fresh produce amongst other things. Declare it all, generally they are trying to stop imports of Asian oddities which are not processed 😲😲. If you take tea or coffee I'd take it in sealed unopened packing, the worse they can make you do is bin it 😉. Salt pepper etc from hire company kitchen, everyone buys it and can't use it all. Buying toilet sachets from some supermarkets but generally outdoor stores, not always as easy as you think to get, some campsites. Hire company may give you just 1 or 2. They will give you dishcloth, tea towel, generally a pillow each, ask for extra if you generally use more than one, and additional covers 😉. You'll get duvet, duvet covers, pillowcases. I'd suggest take small guest size towel for kitchen and bathroom. Plus your own towels if they're not included, can't remember!

    Money get commission free credit and debit cards from UK, you have time to set up new accounts if necessary before you go. Sorry I didn't proof read before posting, afraid of losing the post cos been logged out 😤. I did mean orientated. We use Nationwide FlexPlus pay on the credit card in shops and restaurants, in fact all purchases, settle bill by due date. Withdraw cash from ATM with debit card. Kiwi Bank (green sign white writing) is the equivalent of our Post Office and we have never been charged by them to withdraw cash, I have a feeling Westpac (Red sign with black writing, or vice versa) made no charge either. But BNZ ANZ and others do, but they say before you withdraw so don't rundown cash supplies to low! If you pay by card you pay the exact amount but they don't do small value coins so use Swedish rounding, 5c or less down 6c and more rounded up. They don't tip! If you go to an Indian the rice comes as part of your dish, our friends always forget when they come back here 😂

    I would echo comments above, it's so like this country was years ago although they are catching up fast! When we first went we didn't have dinner one evening as we'd left it too late at 7pm 😂. Your tour guide will have local knowledge, hopefully 😉. The list for shopping is a good idea. I can recommend the NZ tea Charnui, I think it's spelt. Not cheap but very nice and I always bring back their mint tea, or ask for it as presents!

    Don't know if the tour is to and from same city, if it is you can leave your suitcases at the hire company, but that means unpacking before you head off and allowing sufficient time for packing on return 😉.

    I found my local SIM and Google maps a great navigation tool....... 

    We motorhome in this country but found the handover very swift, they are quite casual too. Take photos of any damage on the vehucle inside and out and ensure it's marked on the hire sheet, just in case! You have proof of how it was when you took it 😉. Generally they don't worry about anything about 10p size.

    I hope I've covered the points you've raised but happy to answer anything else as you think if it.

  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2018 #19

    They have a good reputation for coffee shops. Costa and Starbucks have never got a hold. Lovely home cooked places too.

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited October 2018 #20

    Thanks everyone - lots of good info to digest.

    We have asked for a kit list from the club.

    We are not particularly anxious but as this is going to be our "once in a lifetime" want to try and make it as easy as possible, hence going with the club and not doing it ourselves.

     

    Thanks again to all

     

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited October 2018 #21

    One other question I forgot to ask - we will be visiting north and south islands - are there any excursions or attractions that we simply mustn't miss, considering this will be our one and only?

     

    Thanks

  • dunelm
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    edited October 2018 #22

    According to your opening post you are going on a Club trip. Isn't there an itinerary? If so, look at it and see where you are going.(Your request for excursions or attractions is too vague as we don't know where you are going and what is  already included, let alone what you are interested in.) 

    May I also suggest you get a guide book if you haven't already looked at one. A map or road atlas of New Zealand will also be useful. Even if you are provided with a sat-nav, a road atlas will give you the wider picture. We found, for instance, some great waterfalls marked on the map and they were just a few kilometres off the main highway.

    We planned our own trip in 2016, using "The Rough Guide to New Zealand" and a road map. It really was easy. Local tourist information offices in NZ were very useful. We did this without being on an organised trip so had to do our own research. We made a list of "must see" items for us and another list of "desirable if possible" before we left home and worked out our own flexible itinerary.

     

     

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited April 2019 #23

    Thanks everyone for all your help. We had the holiday of a lifetime,Huge thanks to the tour guides, David and Jenny and , of course the Kiwis. Lovely people who made us all so welcome

  • eurortraveller
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    edited April 2019 #24

    I'm so glad you had a good time and that it all went well, but I just hope that others won't be put off by the Club's £11,000 price tag for two people on the 36 day guided tour.

    New Zealand is the easiest country to tour indepependently that we have ever found - and it can be done quite economically these days with a cheap hire car now that AirBnB has hit the world stage. 

     

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #25

    If someone writes they've had the "holiday of a lifetime" that says it all me! Good to hear your holiday news Bazzeruk. smile

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited April 2019 #26

    I understand what you are saying but for me the price tag was worth it. We stayed at top campsites ( when we stuck to the itinerary) with amazing facilities and two excellent hotels We had people doing the same thing ( motorhome) who admitted that they a) didn’t save much by going it alone, b) didn’t have the security of the club and c) hadn’t seen many of the things we had, thanks to our excellent guides. You can’t compare going B and B with a hire car to motor-homing. We camped at Cape Reinga ( the most northern point) and to wake up beside the beach to a glorious sunset was awesome. 

  • Lutz
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    We were able to store our suitcases at the motorhome rental place, so you may be able to do the same if you ask.

    As regards credit cards, for some reason I was unable to obtain cash from a machine using my Visa card in New Zealand even though it worked in Australia, but fortunately I also had a MasterCard and that worked. Since then I've always carried both.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2019 #28

    Bazzeruk

    Glad you had a good time. My eldest son and his friends hired a motorhome in New Zealand some years ago to attend the wedding of a school chum who had settled out there and it gave them the opportunity to see both islands.

    If it's your thing had you thought about adding a story of your experience to the Story Section of this forum? Especially if you could also add some photographs I am sure it would be of interest and use to others thinking of doing the same.

    David

     

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited May 2019 #29

    I have written my feedback which I believe is going to be included in the July issues in the magazine, hopefully along with some photos. Already seems a long time ago, but we have the pictures scrolling on the television when there is nothing we want to watch. So many happy memories.

  • KeefySher
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    edited May 2019 #30

    I for one look forward to reading your feedback in the July magazine.

    Good to hear you had a trip of a lifetime.

    We did NZ for my 50th, but using a rental vehicle and hotels. Perhaps when young un has left school in a few years we may get to do it by MH and for the whole NZ summer. We did August, primarily to go skiing as I'd missed out when I was based in Oz many years earlier.

    Did you take the hired MH on the ferry between North & South Island? With the hire car you drop one at the ferry terminal in Wellington, transfer to the ferry and collect another hire car in Picton. In our case the car in Picton had a ski rack and winter tyres fitted ready to go skiing in our case at Wanaka. 

    The only thing to make it more comfortable is to fly Business Class. Emirates do good deals where the more sectors you do the cheaper it is. That 50th trip was stops in Dubai (a free weekend in the Atlantis on The Palm was gratis with a BC ticket), 3 days in Sydney, NZ, then out to Brisbane, onto Singapore for a few days then home. You get a chauffeur pick up/drop off service at each stop if required and use the BC lounges at airports that saves a fortune. It cost 8.9p per mile flown. If you consider standing on a train to London is 79p per mile, its a deal.

    Our cost per person was £4.5k all in.

  • Grandad Golfer
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    edited May 2019 #31

    We picked up the m/h in Christchurch and dropped it in Auckland as Britz have depots in both cities so no need to change vehicles for the ferry. We did the all inclusive package on the m/h which meant no hassle emptying waste or filling with fuel and no cleaning on return of the vehicle. We flew premium economy with Singapore Airlines - they were superb. Good for you if you were able to do it for that price - we didn’t!  But, we did stay on top sites, did 4200 miles, two top class hotels either side of the trip and quite a few additional excursions, so still in our opinion very much worth the cost, particularly as this was, for us, a trip of a lifetime.