Is it a rip off?

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2019 #332

    Ah but you have imposed a special circumstance there EasyT, you want a new car. Perfectly possible to find a tow car under £12k, but not perhaps a new one!

    The other thing is, it might indeed be perfectly possible to tour using a Club Site as a benchmark. All you have to do is take Nunnykirk as your bench mark, as we did last year. No facilities, grass pitches. It was our dearest site on our tour of Northumberland and Borders. Other sites offered HS, sometimes a loo, most came in under £14 per night, and very nice they were as well.😁

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #333

    Right at the beginning of this thread I responded to the OP with the idea of cheaper alternatives.

    But I also agree that prices have crept up on some sites and whether they are truly good value is down to personal choice.

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2019 #334

    In response to a comment a few pages back about CAMC prices being comparable with similar commercials 'down the road' in no way amends the perception of VFM. I would taker a similar view of the commercials.

    In the final analysis I am providing my own accommodation, maid service and meals. For my fee all I receive is a parking space and a communal bathroom 'along the corridor' and a bit of electricity in an environment that has a greater or lesser degree of landscaping. What will I pay for that? Not as much and some apparently.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #335

    Yes Brue, there are cheaper alternatives but the OP was talking of 3 weeks during a time when many sites have higher charges and saying that they felt £26 a night was expensive. Indeed they may think so but will struggle to find sites of a similar standard to CC sites for significantly less during that period. Although I personally do not believe that the C&CC are up to CC standards in a few areas they might be a cheaper alternative. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #336

    But then we do not know ,as outsiders,  how pricing structures are worked out ,what i do know is that since the working time directive came into effect, and the often over reacted on H&S has been giving "grief" to managers in all industries,when in the past in house staff (wardens) could carry out on site jobs that now have to be "outsourced" to specialist? companies to mitigate any chances of litigation if "unqualified?" staff are involved,none of these companies do it cheaplyundecided which these days will add large costs to sites and the more facilities added the more they will need "maintaining"

       

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #337

    The club is providing the same as many competitors and the CC provisions are, for me, better. 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #338

    In response to a comment a few pages back about CAMC prices being comparable with similar commercials 'down the road' in no way amends the perception of VFM. I would taker a similar view of the commercials.

    Presumably you choose other options then

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #339

    I think the opposition varies as much as CAMC on facilities and provision but they do have their "senior" discount so if there's a choice I'm opting for the discount. wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2019 #340

    The Club offers some very good terms and conditions compared with other providers, currently no deposits and no cancellation fees. Let’s hope these are still in place this time next year for those that enjoy them. 😁

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #341

    Hmm, TDA. I wonder!? wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #342

    spent more time over there than you BB so why should it not interest?

    OK how about the North Shield ferry on Monday? I'll bring a packed lunch for both of us and a few bottles of over there wine (mind you is there any other worth drinking?) smile

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #343

    With some of the "mis information"/"quotes being posted from some quarters  monitoring is essential wink

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  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #346

    Yes, but it doesn't address the point that choosing to use alternatives (as many of us do for all sorts of reasons) is not the same as being "priced out"  does it? 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2019 #347

    Kjell, we found some nice CL sites in South/Mid Wales, let me know if of any interest. Some had loos and showers, some not, but all were very nice. One with a laundry as well, useful on a longer tour.

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #349

    Not a special term really. When talking of sites of a similar standard to the club I am talking about the majority of CC sites with facilities not the likes of Nunnykirk which I think is a great site but such CC sites are few and far between and I do use them when  in the right place for a tour but not specifically to save money. I don't need on site facilities but generally like hardstand and good roadways coupled with easy waste, water, elsan points etc. One of the reasons that C&CC sites are second choice, for me particularly, isthat their showers are of little use to me as one is generally unable to regulate water temperature which rapidly becomes painfully hot for me.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #350

    The quality of your contributions to such discussions is always of a standard

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2019 #351

    I find Club Site showers very irritating. Don’t like fixed heads, especially if they are around 7-8 feet high. Mind you, I appreciate why they are fixed. One of our trips to Yellowcraig saw two of the flexible shower heads stolen from the modified cubicles. You can’t beat a decent easily controlled powerful shower, one of life’s little joys sometimes.😁

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #352

    and not with the amount of cash being spent on each trip, well over £3000

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2019 #353

    No, I meant exactly what I said.

    Until about 5 years back, we pretty much always used  Club sites.

    We like Club sites, we like the dependable standard, we would like to be able to afford to use them all the time when we tour in UK, but with the above inflation price increases in the last, what, 5 years? and the very noticeable lengthening of peak periods and the introduction of additional, higher, pricing periods in June and September in particular, we can no longer afford to use only Club sites.

    As pensioners on a fixed income that does not even keep up with ordinary inflation, we find site price increases just too much.

    We are therefor being "priced out", or whatever you like to call it, as far as we are concerned.

    We have not looked much at alternatives other than CLs and CCC sites, and having found CCC sites work out much less expensive for us, we are now using them , CLs, and the occasional Club site to allow us to take long trips and still keep within our budget.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #355

    Sorry K but saying:

    we can no longer afford to use only Club sites.

    As pensioners on a fixed income that does not even keep up with ordinary inflation, we find site price increases just too much.

    We are therefor being "priced out", or whatever you like to call it, as far as we are concerned.

    Just doesn't equate (the best word I could think of) to spending between £3000 to £6000 per trip each time each year, the fuel costs alone on 3000 to 4000 miles alone just does not tie in. A very high fixed income it must be.

    Maybe it is a language thing for you but when people here stay these things (Pensioner, fixed income, can no longer afford) it means they cannot even dream to spend when you are.  

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #356

    Having read your post BB I give it the response it deserves - '         '.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #357

    I’d like to buy a house but I’ve been priced out and can’t afford it since I bought a yacht.

    Sorry, Kj, but that’s effectively what you’re saying. We all have to make choices and we can’t have our cake and eat it. Your choice to spend your money on your longer hols is great and suits you but please don’t say you can’t afford club site prices because you could if you chose to do that instead of spending on your other trips.

  • JayOutdoors
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    edited April 2019 #358

    The club also allows members to book 1 night with no strings attached - not always available with other pitch providers.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #359

    Sorry, Kj, but you are not being priced out in the sense that you are denied the choice of using them. You, like us and many others have found that there are more economical alternatives, not necessarily of the same standard as club sites, and have chosen to use them. I realise that to some that may appear to be being pedantic, but it is, IMHO, a distinction which needs stressing .  Choice is everything. smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #360

    Kj the cost of fuel for one of your over there trips is (a quick calculation) about over £800! This is well over a month's worth of club site stays so saying you can not afford them is just nonsense! 

    Oh didn't you just buy a new VW? I think many pensioners on fixed incomes would love your lifestyle.

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #361

    Corners, these things are relative, I repeat, again, if someone sets themselves a budget eg sticking to a limit on pitch prices then no matter what you think their finances are you have to respect their decision. They have decided that prices have exceeded what they want to spend. Maybe you will spend whatever a club site pitch costs but if someone decides there is a limit, that's the point, they have reached their spending limit on that part of their income.