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  • Unknown
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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #63

    How do you know it doesn’t pass on 100% of the commission to the members, DD? 🤔

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  • huskydog
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    edited April 2019 #65

    We need a mouse trap then 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #66

    I have no more then you of the former but I have plenty of the latter and it tells me you know no more than I. 🐭🐭😀

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #67

    does the club operate as a Ferry agent without taking a cut?

    dont know, but is this the same club that varies its pitch prices by just 10p in adjacent charging periods to maximise income?

    id suggest they're in it for the money, in all areasso perhaps a reduction is possible, but it ain't gonna happen...frown

    as others have mentioned, i don't see the fairness in ITX deals and other discounts being limited to caravans.

    not opening up ITX/voucher system to MH seems discriminatory to me and a 'MH goes (say) 30% less' offer would match the other caravan free deals.

    next time I speak to BF I'll ask them. I'm sure they'll be very accommodatingwink

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2019 #68

    A single individual or even a couple of posters will not change policy, the threat of holding back/supporting a rival has no impact, what’s needed is a concerted campaign-mails to those with power, FB, Insta, et al, go for the jugular don’t tinker with paper cuts👍🏻

  • iansoady
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    edited April 2019 #69

    As it is an organisation owned by its members then that is what it effectively does as it has no external shareholders to satisfy.

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #70

    But it does offer a price match guarantee, so if you find a cheaper price elsewhere and can prove it the club will match it.

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  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2019 #72

    as others have mentioned, i don't see the fairness in ITX deals and other discounts being limited to caravans

    On my quote posted yesterday the minimum saving for a MH over direct BF prices was £306. Take an ITX and the saving is £400. 

    Mother routes may be more cost effective for MH but good luck with your attempt to get similar savings yourself.

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #73

    thanks..smile.

    but I wasn't specifically comparing BF to the Club, merely observing that the 'caravan goes free' and 'extra vouchers' type deals aren't obviously available to MHers...

  • lagerorwine
    lagerorwine Forum Participant Posts: 310
    edited April 2019 #74

    Lets all face it - its not a club any more, its a limited company., and limited companies are a business that needs money to function.

    As it was the Caravan Club for donkeys years, and only C&MC for the last few, Motorhomers get a smaller discount than Caravanners - simplelaughinglaughing

    JUST JOKING!!!

    If the boot was on the other foot, I'd be unhappy also.

  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2019 #75

    But they are-that's what I was quoting???

    The thread is about the savings booking via the club and those savings are available to members who have a MH.

    If its a MH towing a van then who knows what the savings would be?!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #76

    There is no change in the legal status of the club. It is still 'The Caravan Club Ltd'. 'The Caravan And Motorhome Club' is merely a trading name with no status in its own right.

    The company is Limited by Liability which is for protection and does not mean it has to be totally profit oriented. Obviously it needs to make a profit to roll over and invest in future acquisitions and development but it is not listed on the Stock Exchange so has no investing shareholders to pay a dividend to. 

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2019 #77

    Afternoon

    I tow a large trailer with my motorhome which is classed same as a caravan in that aspect BB don't get all upset. I get those same rates the caravanners do. If you want the same deal then get a trailer simples!!wink

    JK

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #78

    thanks JK, not upset, nor do I want the hassle of a trailer...just don't need one.

    however it would be good to understand the 'policy' although we're short enough to be cheap enough....under £150 is ok.

    ill mention it next time I chat with BF directly, I'm sure it'll be 'rivetting'undecided

  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2019 #79

    brue, I'm afraid they don't always match a cheaper offer, despite what they say on the travel page. 

    I got a cheaper offer with another agent but the club said "oh we can't price match against them" 

    It would appear they will only price match against the ferry companies, not other agents. 

    I do remember someone else commenting about that on another thread awhile ago.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2019 #80

    Strange that you do JK, when we had our MH we towed a small 4m trailer with our scooter on it. 

    On the Hull to Zeebrugge ferry there was no discount for the trailer, I remember as we had to do the booking on the telephone as MH's can't book trailers on the website. I asked "is it not classed as a caravan and goes free" the answer was "no"

    With BF the trailer however was only £35.

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #81

    sorry if I confused....

    lets ask it another way....how do you know which routes, days, times attract the ITX rate where vouchers can be added to the basket yet the overall price falls (often dramatically)?

    if you know for one of these routes, id like to try and book one with my MH to ontain the same level of savings...should be easy enough?

  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2019 #82

    Hi BB, Never had a MH so not looked for prices for one.

    The page with the details on is;

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/overseas-holidays/book-a-crossing/ferry-offers/

    As I have mentioned before, and I am sure you would be doing, the best advice is to check, check and check again.

    I never assume that a price I, or anyone else, has had will be repeated and I always call the travel service to see if they have a better deal/price available.

    In the past price was the main criteria but as finances got easier we chose to pay more to travel from Plymouth and now we are getting a great price and travelling from Plymouth so a win win for us.

    Plymouth, as you probably know, is well provided for regarding MH with lots of parking, places to eat close by and if coming back from Roscoff a very nicely positioned Aire at St Pol with a very, very good restaurant just yards away.

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #83

    thanks again alan, here is the detail from that page

    "Save with Brittany Ferries

     Caravans either go free or with 50% discount and 10% off motorhomes on selected French sailings, plus reduced packages.

    Subject to availability."

    Note the difference in caravans going free or at 50% discount, compared to the 10% discount for MH.

    The Poole route and timings mentioned in the Special Deals list are the one we normally use, but I've never seen the price drop dramatically if I add vouchers....it just goes up by the price of the vouchers....whereas caravanners have posted regularly that, if adding four vouchers, the price falls below that without the vouchers...

    my point was a simple one, how do I get the same 'vouchers mean lower price' deal...

    AFAIK, it isn't available for MH....well, I can't make it happen...

    and this is the nub of what the MHers in this thread are meaning by 'getting the same deals'...

    its not whether caravans or MH are treated differently by the club, I'm sure they aren't, merely that genuinely cheap deals (from the ferry companies) seem only to be available to caravans.

    ill have to ask BF how I can get this type of deal as I can't seem to sort it on the website.

    thanks again for your patience.

  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2019 #84

    Hi BB, The page shows three deals where a MH goes for price of a car, so effectively same, pro rata as car/caravan, and a number of these deals are dependent on also booking a site or site vouchers so, in effect, vouchers are reducing the price.

    However, if you are only considering BF routes then it is as you said a 10% discount for a MH.

    Why that is I don’t know. The club is offering routes with equivalent deals for car/van and MH, but it seems not on ones that are of use to you.

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #85

    thanks againsmile

    as you say, no good for Poole on BF, but the prices we paid weren't too bad as they are.

  • RachelV
    RachelV Forum Participant Posts: 14
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    Thank you all for your comments around this - I am on the Travel team and appreciate that there are some oddities around the Brittany Ferries pricing system so wanted to let you know what the current situation is.

    All of the operators we work with give us special offers on both their normal retail and/or package fares, and we can't add any special discounts ourselves. As has been highlighted, Brittany Ferries give us special deals on certain French sailings; in low season caravans go free or 10% discount on motorhomes and in high season caravans get 50% discount or 10% discount on motorhomes. This may be more noticeable on the Plymouth-Roscoff route because in low season we get these special offers every day except on the outbound on Fridays & Saturdays. Outside of these offers the price for motorhomes should be cheaper than caravans.

    Other ferry operators, when giving us special deals such as "caravan goes free" combine it with an offer of "motorhome goes at car rate" - whilst this can be seen as "fairer" it also isn't perfect as both outfit types travel at the same rate regardless of length of deck space used. Brittany's system simply gives us a % off the motorhome rate and I understand that their system can't be loaded as 'car rate'. 

    We have asked Brittany previously if there is anything else they can do for motorhomes to make it fairer (besides reducing the caravan offer which we're reluctant to do).  We will continue discussing this with Brittany in every meeting we have with them and whilst of little consolation to the motorhomers we're confident that the Club can offer all of our members great deals with all ferry operators including Brittany Ferries, and if you're in need of a quote we're happy to look at alternative dates and/or routes in order to get you the best possible deal 

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited April 2019 #87

    Rachel, thanks for the info....keep talking to BFwink

  • H1UBS
    H1UBS Forum Participant Posts: 37
    edited April 2019 #88

    Well thanks for all the contributions to my original post although it has been mostly off the original topic.

    However, I have learnt something from it ... ITX fares !!

    I had no idea that by adding 4 overnight vouchers to the booking the ferry fares work out even cheaper. 

    I tend to use ACSI but happy to spend £22 each for 4 nights to save an extra £50 on the ferry .. THANKS ALL