Slight of Hand "Head Line" Pricing

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #92

    BB stop digging, you have posting misleading figures for whatever reason and they must be shown to be so, may I remind you what you wrote?

    those who might well be on site now (as you say) will be paying close to £40 for a nonSP and nearer £45'for a SP

    This is clearly nonsense, the cost at standard sites (ie most of them) and as shown by myself and others is about £30 on site now, I paid 38 for a SP. Even on Hillhead at the moment it is under £40. I do not know where you got yours figures from. They have been peak since the 5th and would have been well below them before that

    If as you say it is sneaky (your own words) for the club to do this 'headlining' then it is sneaky of you too, simple.

  • bandgirl
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    edited April 2019 #93

    Apologies to all if I’m wrong, as I’m not a solo traveller.  Have those touring on their own always had the option of paying for the pitch + 1 adult, or has the standard cost always been pitch + 2 adults, meaning they had to pay extra, regardless of how it’s now currently advertised?

    I’m not disputing that the change has been confusing, after always advertising as pitch + 2, but I just see it as normal practice in the tourism industry these days.  You can go online and book a package tour with flights & hotel and find it’s nothing like the price on the web site, for example.

    However the pitch prices are advertised, it’s going to give incorrect information in some circumstances to some people.

  • bandgirl
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    edited April 2019 #94

    Perhaps the standard pitch + 2 is a feature of some of the commercial sites we’ve used, or looked at, in the past, including the local one where we store our caravan in their compound, and not CAMC.  As has been pointed out somewhere, many commercial sites add on additional costs for awnings, dogs, extra adults, and all manner of other things, however all their pitches may be serviced, and you can choose whether you want grass or hardstanding.  They will then allocate you a pitch.  Facilities will, of course, vary in quality, and prices may be similar, cheaper, or more expensive than club sites.  Some won’t take one night bookings, especially at weekends, and some specify a minimum of three nights over a bank holiday weekend.  This includes CC&C, but not CAMC.  In many cases you won’t get immediate confirmation of availability when you book online, and you won’t get the final price until you’ve gone through the booking process.  

    For this reason, I find the CAMC a convenient, and not necessarily overpriced, service if there’s a site in the location I want to visit.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2019 #95

    Might it be a better idea for the Club to make no mention of from prices? Is price the first consideration when looking where to book? Location and availability is my first consideration. 

    David 

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #97

    Jen - stop trying to bring common sense into this discussion! laughing

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #98

    yes, i know what i wrote, and I explained to you why I wrote it (the prices were as I quoted when I originally posted the observation).

    im sorry you don't accept that, never mind.

    the fact remains, the £50 pitch is coming to a site near you, probably quicker than you think....undecided

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #99

    yes, of course Jen's post is common sense, however the other underlying 'price' issue is that they are rising quickly and the number of 'cancels' is rapidly weighing the 'confirms'frown

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #100

    "…and the number of 'cancels' is rapidly weighing the 'confirms'"

    You’ve lost me there. What have cancellations to do with headline prices? Weighing the confirms? 🤔

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #101

    so sorry, I meant 'outweighing'....the post was based on Jen's which i named..

    ok, I missed out a couple of letters, but even you should have been able to crack that one, surely?

    ill try again....

    jen posted this....

    "I enter my details, the club gives me a breakdown of what it is going to cost, I make a decision: confirm or cancel."

    I responded with...(now corrected...)

    "yes, of course Jen's post is common sense, however the other underlying 'price' issue is that they are rising quickly and (for some on limited or fixed incomes) the number of 'cancels' is rapidly weighing the 'confirms'.

    better now?undecided

  • Justus2
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    edited April 2019 #102

    Exactly OJ, we look for an area we might like and look for a site below our maximum threshold, which is currently £25 unless it for something really special. If it is more than £25 we cancel making the booking and look for another site, another area or another time. If all sites are over £25 in a particular location or time then we just avoid it, plenty others to go at and like you we use  https://www.searchforsites.co.uk/   ... It all depends on how much spare income you have, and I'm guessing that some on here have much more to spare than I currently have.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2019 #103

    Ah, this is where the custard thickens further! At most sites, solo travellers do only pay for pitch plus one adult. However.......remember those “Tour for less” Sites...........this is where it gets interesting, because the £15.00 pitch fee is one that remains the same for a solo, a couple, or a family with up to four children. All on a site with no facilities of course. But......don’t expect all none facility sites to be “tour for less” sites, some, are not. So here, you probably will be able to pay as a solo.

    Confused? You bet, and that’s just the membership! Rule of thumb when considering a Club Site is go through the motions of booking, if the resulting price suits you, then confirm the booking. If it doesn’t, then you just start again with a different option. 

    I think more tinkering with bookings is to happen later in year, no doubt that will muddy the waters further. 😂

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #104

    Nope, not much better as 'even I' with the word word corrected cannot see how 'even you' can know that cancels are rapidly outweighing confirms.

    Pure speculation to suit your line of thinking, BB, unless you’re blessed with second sight. 

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #105

    "I responded with...(now corrected...)

    "yes, of course Jen's post is common sense, however the other underlying 'price' issue is that they are rising quickly and (for some on limited or fixed incomes) the number of 'cancels' is rapidly weighing the 'confirms'.

    better now?"

     

    Well call me pedantic, but that's not really a correction is it, BB, since you've again missed out the "out"(wink) and, more importantly, you've added the phrase in brackets which I don't think was there originally.  And still,  it's only conjecture o your part based on a very small number of posters who complain on CT about the prices (but many of whom still pay those very prices). At the end of the day Jenny is correct and saying very much the same as I did earlier in the thread - if the price looks OK,  pay it,  if it seems too expensive just look elsewhere as you would do with any purchase surely?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #106

    well no, I'm not being obtuse (perish the though CS I hear you say) but what does:

    and (for some on limited or fixed incomes) the number of 'cancels' is rapidly (out)weighing the 'confirm

    actually mean?

    Firstly how are the folk on limited or fixed incomes affected by the number of cancels?

    Secondly are you are saying that the number of cancellations is greater than the number of people booking or confirming?

    If so please explain how you know this?

    And, even more intriguing, then how do you know the the number of cancels is rising quickly ? 

     

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #107

    "Rule of thumb when considering a Club Site is go through the motions of booking, if the resulting price suits you, then confirm the booking. If it doesn’t, then you just start again with a different option."

    Oh no, not more common sense! surprised

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #108

    perfectly sound advice.

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited April 2019 #109

    just watch carry on camping, somethings never change.laughing

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #110

    you mean the owner going for a P?

    here

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #111

    you're right, 'obtuse' isnt the word undecided

    try reading Jen's post, then mine to TW....you see you're taking one clause at a time without the context....

    hence focussing on the fingerundecided.....hint, watch the clip.... 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #112

    why not try and understand what posters 'mean' rather than what they actually write

    What? what they mean rather than what they write??? Do you realise what you have said there? We have to discern what you mean rather than what you write? Really? How are we meant to do that exactly?

    I really think that anyone should be able to understand what you (or anyone) means by what you write BB, it should be clear enough from the start without the reader having to interpret it. That is what clear well written (and spoken) English is all about.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #113

    "why not try and understand what posters 'mean' rather than what they actually write...."

    That was what I was trying to do. I always find it pays to attempt to write what one means rather than to talk in riddles.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #114

    +1

    But easier to play the 'profession' and the man rather than the argumentundecided

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #115

    I'm guessing what you "mean" is "I agree with every one of your wise words,  moulesy",  BB.

    It's not what you've "written", admittedly, but it's what I surmise (and very sensible too!) laughing

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #116

    yes also the part about agreeing with myself and TW. smilelaughing

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #117

    As you are fond of saying "in English pleasewink"

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2019 #118

    😁Wednesdays are usually my common sense days. Can’t cope with more than one in a week though🤪

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #119

    you're so far off beam, you're obsessed with the word 'cancels' and have gone of on a route of your own and got yourself in a bit of a tiz..

    just look at what Jen posted,,understand what she was saying...and you might get a bit closer...

    i really can't help you any more...undecided sorry, you're on you own....

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2019 #120

    like your pals, you've focussed on the finger....wink

    overanalysing specific words and clauses, digging deeper and deeper into the text, spending ages searching.....for what?

    usually a stick to beat a poster with....a feature of so many CT threads.

    you're asking me questions I can't answer (how many cancellations, etc, etc....) which I have never mentioned....

    Jen used the word, look at what point she was making a few posts back, nothing to do with cancellations....

    i have no insider knowledge of such things, so you've spent ages getting wound up about nothing.

    I've told you what you need to know (several times) i really can't be bothered to spend any more time with this.

     

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #121

    +1