Unfair treatment of a caravanner
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Read my post again. I did not say there was no disruption.
In any case it has no bearing on the topic of discussion here which is a warden allocating grass pitches to caravans.
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We are at Thurstaston at the moment and all of the grass pitches are out of action and several H/s ones as well. Wardens wouldn't dare open grass ones as the occupants would by default become Seasonal stayers.
Just goes to show though that sometimes even with H/s pitches you are not always guaranteed a pitch.The wardens did cancel a rally, due last weekend and if the H/s pitches do not dry out will have to cancel a few bookings for this weekend but they do seem to know exactly what they are doing and have already been pro-active.
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But we don't even know that do we, it's nothing but hearsay, rumour and speculation. There may be an element of truth but without the whole story we know little if anything. Was this an attempt at managing an unforeseen and relatively unusual event, who knows? I don't!
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In any case it has no bearing on the topic of discussion here which is a warden allocating grass pitches to caravans.
The relevance TW is that both AD and myself have recounted the fact that we have turned up on sites where we were expected to take pitches that were not fit for purpose rather than some members being cancelled. To arrive on a site that has more expected members than fit pitches available is poor. To then be expected to take the least suitable pitches is far worse IMO when a phone call would have saved driving to a site that was unfit
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Are we doubting the OP who told us the story of caravans being allocated grass pitches? Then there’s the post by J2 which describes wardens managing pitches in view of ground conditions. Are we doubting him? It’s a bit more than just hearsay, rumour and speculation, Micky.
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Chrystal's case is quite different, Easy. It was a site that is all HS and only one area was given over to the film crew. She still had the rest of the site to choose from. It’s rather like the Sandringham situation where part of the site is taken out of use. Neither are cases of having less 'fit' pitches than the number of arrivals.
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I was referring to the OP. Even the poster acknowledged it was a post they had read on another forum. I categorically do not doubt that. As the adage goes..........
But I do doubt the full facts which underpin and we are unaware of in this second hand report. We need a more substantiated or first hand understanding of the circumstances! That's reasonable isn't it?
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I've already agreed that the reported post from S/T is probably not the full story but J2’s post provides much credence.
If we were all thinking the whole thing is a tall tale, why are we discussing it? We might just as well let Jill close it.
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Same site or not, it’s evidence of the same situation described by the OP where the warden was managing pitch allocation.
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Are we on crossed wires? I'm all for looking at each reported incident according to its own specific circumstances and merits. Sites are different, we know that, and do throw up different challenges. Afterall there may well be some facts we are understandable unaware of which are pertinent to the outcome.
With the above in mind I too am all for wardens managing their sites accordingly.
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I doubt that the pitches became suddenly unsuitable and he could have phoned and cancelled some and I have certainly known hard standings to be reserved for motorhomes.
I suspect that whatever the wardens actions that you would rather have been given a phone call at 9am and advised of the likely situation
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The original on Swift Talk has been updated and it now seems that the site did give prior warning of the situation and made helpful suggestions.The person agreed to go on grass but ,as I was,suprised to be treated as second best as he was there first!
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As I said back on page whatever. There are usually two sides to every story.
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For me this thread merely provides further evidence, if any were needed, that members should be able to choose a pitch type at the time of booking rather than the time of arrival, just like most other camp sites do. The current system merely causes unrest and bad feeling in times of bad weather.
Dry & firm pitches are usually OK for all, and when we had a caravan, we survived wetter ones too, albeit with a four wheel drive tow car. It wouldn't, however, have been our first choice, and we once left a CL as it was churned up like a ploughed field.
With our motor home, we have been OK on firm grass pitches, but on wetter ones the ramps have sunk into the soft ground about five inches and on another our ramps ended up banana shaped and had to be replaced. Thankfully we have never been stuck and in need of a tractor.
Booking a pitch type would make all this go away, assuming it didn't confuse everyone again..
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I had driven about 80 miles to get there and then had to drive another 100 to another site all because of no pitch booking choice, and the warden being unable to reserve HS for MH.
Wow you had to drive a further 100 miles for another site.................
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Geez MrC, really, do you have to bring logic & reasoning into it?, that’s the nitpicking & bickering over then😂😂
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With our motor home, we have been OK on firm grass pitches, but on wetter ones the ramps have sunk into the soft ground about five inches and on another our ramps ended up banana shaped and had to be replaced.
I would reckon that pitches in such condition are fit for neither caravan nor motorhome
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I would be "most upset" if I had to do that. I book a site because that is where I want to be, and almost always other arrangements have been made nearby.
I would have been more than "most upset" if after the extra 100 miles I found the same situation because no HS had been reserved.
Over the years I have wondered why space is taken up in the Site Directory to give mileagaes to adjacent sites. This could be why.
"Sorry, Member, thank you for visiting Sandringham. We have no hard standing vacant for you - but there are plenty at Altnahara".
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Morning
I've run an all grass site for the last four years. Sometimes it's a tough judgement call whether pitches can be used or not. If it's not looking good and decision time we always, as I said upthread phone people ahead. Funnily though I reckon 95 percent of caravanners will still come even after an alternative is suggested. Might be location, or my smile or whatever. We're all different, not everyone wants the gravel car park look.
The op has come back and said the person involved was consulted and still chose grass. It's been in the book for more years than I've worked for the club that sometimes pitch allocation can occur. How a warden manages pitches be they grass or hardstanding is really down to common sense and experience. You can perceive that to be preferential treatment to some if you wish, I call it best practise or good management.
Oh and fair play to all you posters on here before 8.00, CT must be more important than tea and toast!
JK
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Well said, JK. I hope you’ve got the point of pitch management across because I’ve clearly failed abysmally.
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Yes, thanks, I already knew that. We had caravans for many many more years than the three years we have had the motor-home...
But I have also spotted that as a motor home usually only has just the four wheels versus a caravan and tow car's usual six, it does sink into soft ground more readily - just saying
It's one reason we prefer the Camping Clubs book a hard-standing in advance system. If only we could do the same with this club..
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I call it best practise or good management.
It might be your only option but that does not mean that it does not favour motorhomes. I have Never been contacted before arrival in such circumstances despite not setting out before 10.30am. If I were told that vans were being sited by tractor, as I have witnessed on a few occasions I would have made alternative arrangements as I would consider that ground conditions were too bad.
If as reported by Justus at Blaidon Chains caravans were sited by tractor using rubber mats under outfit wheels and cars parked in car park I certainly would have given the site the go by
Oh and fair play to all you posters on here before 8.00, CT must be more important than tea and toast!
Crumpets were at 7.30 after my second cup of coffee
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Aren’t a lot of you missing the point here? It’s not about favouritism but about preserving the grass pitches for others to use later.
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