Unfair treatment of a caravanner

dave the rave
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edited March 2019 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I have just been reading about a caravanner who arrived at a club site during the week and was told that although there were un occupied hardstanding pitches he would have to use a grass pitch and leave the towcar in the carpark as the hardstandings would be needed for motorcaravans arriving at the weekend !I always understood that pitches were allocated on arrival and were not pre.saveable.Is this a new policy to give the ever increasing number of motorcaravans precedence over members with touring caravans.another nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #2

    where did you read this?

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #3

    Without further details or a link I cannot comment. I agree with you as I would not be prepared to take a grass pitch in preference to cancelling somebody whose outfit is deemed not suitable

  • dave the rave
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    edited March 2019 #4

    Swift Talk.Site in Oxfordshire.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #5

    I have no access then

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #6

    difficult to comment either way on a poster in another forum who may or may be telling the truth? or at least giving only part of the story?

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2019 #7

    Perhaps some cut-and-past quotes would help those of us who have not puchased a Swift product to see what was being stated.

    While I could have missed an announcement that particular pitches could now be reserved when booking, I do not think it would have been possible to miss the rumpus such an announcement would have created.

    What MAY have been happening here is that a rally of some sort had booked to use the site, and in those circumstances the reserving of a group of pitches is apparently acceptable.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #8

    I think we've had enough problems caused in the past by C&P from SwiftTalk!

    I've no reason to doubt the story because, as I’m sure I’ve posted before, it happened to me at Hurn Lane around 10 years ago when we had a caravan. There was a MH show at Shepton Mallet which is hardly on the doorstep and for some reason the wardens thought a lot of MHs would be stopping at Hurn Lane so put the new arrivals in caravans on grass. I made my feelings known and all I got was "Okaaay". The stupid thing was that most of the HS remained empty while we drove in and out several times ploughing up the grass.

    I saw no point in pursuing the matter because the wardens are tasked with managing the pitches as they see fit and, when push comes to shove, the club will back the wardens.

  • compass362
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    edited March 2019 #9

    I'm on Swift talk 😜i'll take a gander & spill the beans on the dreadful issues.

  • compass362
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    edited March 2019 #10

    Looked back on Swift talk & lost the will to live after last 3  months of forum waffle ….nowt I can see would the OP enlighten us  when the deed was done …..😝

     Year & month would help.😘

  • JollyKernow
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    edited March 2019 #11

    Mmmmm, swift talk and perhaps a pinch, no a bucket of saltwink

    JK

     

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #12

    I have once been told by the warden that 'would be grateful' if I used a grass pitch. I wasn't after gratitude and so too hard. 

    I normally want hard standing. I pay premium prices for a CC pitch and do not expect to be told to use grass, nor will I. 

     

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2019 #13

    Ah swift talk by name, swift talk by nature! Sounds like one of those windup rumours that do nothing but spread and encourage disharmony. Such a shame.

    If a fellow caravaner was in 'trouble' and the grass was good to go, I'd swap, I quite like grass. I'd swap to a non awning too if that helped and it didn't inconvenience me particularly. After all, we caravaners are renowned for our helpfulness and consideration towards each other aren't we?😉

  • rayjsj
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    edited March 2019 #14

    Do not agree with this IF it is True. First Come First Served.......No Exceptions.  Favouritism just causes resentment. 

     

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #15

    Those of you who disagree with the warden managing the pitches in a way he feels is right, what are you going to do?

    No, they don’t always make the right or sensible decisions but the warden's word is final and arguing will probably result in you being shown the gate. 

     

    PS. I can assure you that the event I quoted happened to me. I do not lie. Why, then, do you doubt the veracity of the post on SwiftTalk, or are you suggesting Sweetman made it up?

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2019 #16

    It is written in the rules.  " . . choice of any pitches available . . "  Just not ALL vacant pitches are being described as "available".

    We are doomed!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #17

    A warden should the implementing the club's rules, not his/her own interpretation of them.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #18

    They are the club's rules. The club empowers the warden to make such decisions.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2019 #19

    I have read some where in a club publication  that pitch allocation by site site staff may be required on sites in certain cercumstances 

    Not sure where,  but its there somewhere, maybe JK can enlighten 

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2019 #20

    That's right, but in this 'instance' we really do not know that there is any truth behind it. As with other similarly doubtful posts we ought not to jump to the worst conclusions. But again yes, when arriving at site we should all be given that opportunity to pick from what is vacant and available. There are two exceptions mind in my opinion, these being disabled pitches and those very few pitches on those very few 'quirky sites' which have trouble with large units. In these cases folk don't have the privilege of choosing on arrival, they have to put up with that one pitch allocated to them.

  • dave the rave
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    edited March 2019 #21

    post was made yesterday and stated "currently".I have no intention of getting "involved" as I would expect that the post would have been put on this site!I just felt the need to bring it to the attention of this forum.

  • Tigi
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    edited March 2019 #22

    Pitches except on a small number of sites have always been on a first come, first served basis, personally I prefer a hard standing so wouldn't be impressed if forced onto grass when hardstandings were empty. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #23

    Site rule 1

    c. Once you arrive on site, you can take your pick of the available pitches for the pitch type that you have booked. If you have a large or very heavy outfit, you may need to be allocated a specific pitch. Please refer to individual sites for maximum length of outfit. Please check with the site before you arrive that there's a suitable pitch available for large or heavy outfits. If there isn't, you will not be able to stay on site. There may also be times when we have to allocate your pitch due to site layout or ground conditions.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2019 #24

    That's the site rule we all 'sign' up to on joining, tinny! Totally acceptable in my opinion! 

    I guess awkwardness could occur when someone tips up, sees a vacant but pre allocated pitch for that purpose and makes a fuss but that's the rule they have signed up to!

    Then possibly the 'creation' of a thread like that on Swift Talk follows!

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2019 #26

    Absolutely, they should 'leaf' them alone to get on with it! wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #27

    it is interesting that it has not been put on this site, I mean why the swift site which won't influence CAMC goers as much as here?

    To me that says we are not getting the full story? Perhaps the were asked not to take the HS?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #28

    Maybe the writer doesn’t contribute to CT, Corners. Goodness knows why he wouldn't.tongue-out

    I’ve no reason to doubt the basis of the tale but you’re right that there could well be more to it.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #29

    AS far as I am concerned HD if a pitch is not suitable for a motorhome then it sure is not suitable for me to pay for.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2019 #30

    Quite so HD. Whilst no one would particularly want a wet pitch but at least a caravan has a better chance of being pulled off that pitch where as a heavy motorhome is likely to get stuck, churn up the pitch and probably make it unusable for the next member. Wardens are there to manage such things. I don't suppose it happens that often but there will be times when they have to make a decision that may turn out to be unpopular. The alternative is to start cancelling stays on sites and that could well mean that the caravan that might have been offered a grass pitch would have no pitch if the cancellation was done on a last booked first cancelled basis. Just a thought.

    David