Engaged Motor Mover

PJMEG
PJMEG Forum Participant Posts: 180
edited June 2018 in Caravans #1

Hi,

Could anyone please tell me if it advisable to leave a motor mover engaged onto the wheel but with isolator switched off whilst the van is parked at a site, I have seen this only a couple of times my guess is that it helps stop any van creep or used like a handbrake but is there any chance that it may damage the tyres if left on for a week or longer.

Thanks.

PJM. 

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  • Pageantpete07
    Pageantpete07 Forum Participant Posts: 91
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    edited June 2018 #2

    I wouldn't have thought so as the tyres carry the weight of the caravan constantly. I often leave mine on when on site.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2018 #3

    An interesting thread, I've always disengaged the rollers on site, but perhaps I don't need to? Will save a lot of effort and time.

  • PJMEG
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    edited June 2018 #5

    Hi,

    I understand they can carry the weight but to have pressure applied in one area for any length of time is probably different, ie when leaving caravan stood over the winter some people advise removing the wheels or moving the van slightly so as the tyres are not left with the weight on one spot.

    Cheers.

  •  viatorem
    viatorem Forum Participant Posts: 645
    edited June 2018 #6

    I always apply handbrake , chock wheels, legs down, disengage mover and if on the level disengage handbrake. I tend to leavo handbrake on if on a slope.

     

    extract from a well known mover manufacturer user manual

    – After manoeuvring, always apply the parking
    brake first, disengage the drive rollers
    from the tyre and block the wheels
    (especially on sloping surfaces!). The Mover®
    is not suitable for use as a parking brake
    for the parked caravan.

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #7

    When our motor mover was fitted i was told to disengage after use as it can "stress" the roller bearings as the are  not designed to be stationary "under stress"

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2018 #8

    Just wondering what all those that never leave the caravan's handbrake on for fear of it sticking on do with their car's handbrake (automatics exempt 😉)

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2018 #9

    I always disengage my mover if I've had to use it.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2018 #10

    Most car hand brakes are well used ,whereas a caravan or for that matter a motor caravan hand brakes can "stick" because of under use

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2018 #11

    My tow cars' 'hand' brake gets used very infrequently .... MOT & steep hills .... and Ive yet to get a stuck on brake in the 20 plus yrs I've driven an auto. Ironically, the handbrake of the car I use for work went through a phase of sticking if left for a few days.

  • DSB
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    edited June 2018 #12

    This is what I would have thought.

    David

  • jennyc
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    edited June 2018 #13

    We disengage our motor mover rollers after use, and disengage our handbrake when the steadies are down etc. Aside from creating a dent in the tyre, we often position the van with our mover, but back the car under the hitch when leaving. If you’ve ever forgotten to disengage the mover before towing, you’ll know that you can’t - what if the mover stuck on after being left for a couple of weeks?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2018 #14

    If you’ve ever forgotten to disengage the mover before towing, you’ll know that you can’t -

    You can ..... innocent it just makes a lot of noise 😉

     

  • Heethers
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    edited June 2018 #15

     

    Not advised can weaken the spring that holds it on, so l was told by Truma

  • Whittakerr
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    edited June 2018 #16

    I always disengage my mover. Not only is it putting undue stress on the tyres its also putting undue stress on the mover mechanism.

  • xtrailman
    xtrailman Forum Participant Posts: 559
    edited June 2018 #17

    Same here.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited June 2018 #18

    I managed to drive a few meters with the Alko wheel lock in place so I expect I could have done the same with the mover if I’d tried, Surely it’s sensible to disengage the mover when not in use as it is putting strain both on the mechanism and the tyre. It’s a bit like winding up the jockey wheel when the steadies are down; not necessary and not good practice.

  • EalingBob
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    edited March 2019 #19

    We've got  electrical engagement on our caravan mover. I generally leave it engaged on the tyre when in storage so it makes it harder to steal and is one further thing for the thief to worry about.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #20

    Not a great way to treat your tyres and you’ll be up the creek when (not if) your auto engagement fails.

    Still, it's your tyres and your choice.

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2019 #21

    We always disengaged our auto and manual movers, otherwise they are under stress, which I don't think is a good idea. As to handbrake, ours was always on when the van was parked. The caravan was serviced every year including the brakes, so there should be little risk of sticking. In 14 years we never had a problem. Now we have a MH I will engage the handbrake and leave it in gear.

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2019 #22

    what's the point of a handbrake if you never use it. leave mine on for 4/5 months over winter and never a problem.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #23

    agreed & likewise 👍 though I don't often use my car's 🙄

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2019 #24

    When I was making an enquiry on another matter, I asked the guy at Powrtouch, the specific question posed by the OP.  He said it was a definite 'no-no' because of the stress it placed on both the tyres and the motor mover if left engaged for a protracted time.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #25

    Once bitten twice shy.

  • dave the rave
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    edited March 2019 #26

    washed the wifes car,put in garage mid.feb.I usually leave the h/brake off as she rarely uses the car,on this occasion I applied it (senior moment) 3 weeks later.....tried to get car out of garage........brakes well seized !!!The lesson is.....do not leave a vehicle with the handbrake on for weeks on end.(As long as not stored on a public road!)

  • Tigi
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    edited March 2019 #27

    As per RichardandRos Powertouch recommend the rollers are not engaged on the tyres except during use as a mover.

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2019 #28

    like you said. "washed the car and put it away" so brakes still wet and this would have caused rust on drums/discs and this is probably why they stuck on. A quick snap of the clutch should free them.

  • redface
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    edited March 2019 #29

    When parked up, level and steadies down then I release the rollers.

    At that point apply wheel clamp, add a chock to the other side and also release the handbrake ( saves it from seizing on.)

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Forum Participant Posts: 670
    edited March 2019 #30

    Sheer idleness not using the hand/parking brake even on an auto, apart from the fact that it is an offence to park on a public highway without the brake applied.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #31

    So you've said before .... 

    I'm one of very many idle auto users then.