Six Nations 2019
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Well, I don't know what to say!🤔 I did enjoy it as a game mind!
Well done Scotland you deserved that draw on English soil and retention of the Calcutta Cup.
What now for England, so close but so far away from that perfection needed in Japan?
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As you so rightly say, Mickysf, it was a truly amazing game. All credit to a totally outplayed Scotland for coming out after the break with load of pride, determination & clear heads. The Replacements on both sides made all the difference so well done to them.
Only one thing really spoiled the game for me { A born, bred and proud ENGLISHMAN } and that was seeing yet another shoulder charge from Farrell. He made no attempt to block or catch the ball from the kicker, nor did he raise his arms to soften the impact for both of them, he just dropped his shoulder & kept running.
A very personal view == RED CARD with no excuses.
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Rugby has today become a collision sport rather than a contact sport in my opinion. It's now down to micro second timing and playing to the very edge and hitting very hard at that. In real time it looked different to the slow motion and I believe a red card would have been a tad harsh decision for Farrell. When playing that close I guess self preservation kicks in and I don't believe he intended to inflict injury. Possibly a yellow but in that heat of the moment it's debatable and so difficult for the pitch ref or even the video ref to make what could be a match/spectacular spoiling decision. Maybe Union ought to introduce the 'On Report' way of dealing with the likes as in Rugby League. Or possibly a carried forward warning into future games. Just a thought!
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It would mean that the incident would be scrutinised thoroughly and at 'leisure' by a panel of match officials and law makers within a a couple of days. A decision is then reached which could carry consequences of missing next game or a series of games, even financial penalties can be issued. It's only used in the instances where an on pitch snap decision is highly likely to be difficult and problematic.
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They do have a "sighting" system where an illegal action missed by the ref is reviewed by a panel and disciplinary action is often take against perpetrator.
Have just watched the English Ladies thrash their Scottish counterparts 80-0 and win their version of the 6 Nations. I must say how impressed I was with the all round quality of rugby that they played.
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They are slightly different, 'sightings' in Union happen after a match and are not made in real time by the ref. Often it's the coaches who ask for a sighting during the match debrief with the officials.
The ref in League places the player on report when he has an element of doubt in the heat of game about an infringement. If he is sure he will sin bin or 'red card' a player accordingly though..
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I think there is something lacking in the psyche of England. When the pressure is on them they cannot react to it. This has been proven over a number of years. Yes they have world class players, but when on the "back foot" capitulate. Wales have learnt to live with it, and "have forgotten how to loose". This in no doubt is down to the coaching staff, and perhaps England need to look at this? Again Da Iawn Cymru.
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I think there is an element of truth in this of which arrogance may play a detrimental part.
How dare the Scots do this on our hallowed ground!
Probably they all, players and staff, needed bringing down a peg or two. Well done the Scots.0 -
Now as far as these CITINGS of incidents go, I reckon they are only good if they are totally unseen by the on pitch & tv match officials.
In the incident I mentioned ( Farrall's shouldering the Scottish kicker ) it was not, nor could it be, missed by them -- the only problem to my mind was if they were of differing opinions about the severity of punishment due. He is becoming a bit of a "Serial Offender" in this tactic -- I just hope the powers that be take him to one side & read the Riot Act mainly to protect his career & other players wellbeing.
Sorry for the delay in replying, but I just HAD to watch those SEVEN (7 ) goals on EFL on Quest last night
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No irony in this. Just look at recent games where the second half has proved a factor.
To me Scotland were the team yesterday, even though we won The Six nations. Never say Never.....
Eddie Jones needs to look at himself. I think he tries to intimidate other Nations,(Scotland not winning since 1183?) In fact with the draw kept the Calcutta Cup. England haven't seen it for 2 years!!
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Yes, that was my thought, the question was severity of punishment. It looked a tad different in real time. This was a good example of how being put on report at the point of stoppage would have been justified if the match officials were unsure.
Does anyone know if the incident has subsequently been 'CITED?
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No need for any 'reporting' or 'citing' in this case as clearly it was just a collision. Check the slow motion evidence and you'll see Farrell's right arm is extended to act as a 'shock absorber' if you like, before the impact of shoulders. No suggestion here of foul play unlike the other occasions where he was lucky to stay on the park. It's a carry over from his days at League football where chest high tackles are prevalent and has crept into the Union code (the laws on mauls don't help either). It's a simple fix to stamp it out and the RFL have started by changing the laws on tackles above the shoulder. How long before anything above waistline is brought in?
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He's played Union and not league since the tender age of 13!
I don't think the problem has crept in from League, 'higher' tackles were allowed in Union when I played, just not around the neck.
Coaches have always pushed the boundaries and looked for chinks in the laws and the rule makers are always trying to make the game 'safer' whilst retaining if not improving the spectical of the game as a whole.
To be honest, I think the tackle laws in League are far clearer but they too have been evolving recently to eradicate injuries as best they can.
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That's okay ABM, refs in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres have different takes on certain rules. Even in the UK refs will see things differently even with Video Replay and slowmo.
Just for 'fun' remember this 'tackle' from a real Welsh hero of yesteryear?
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Sorry Micky, not totally true, but it matters not. That's the beauty of our game, we can all discuss our views, respecting others, without a war breaking out 👍😀
Owen Andrew Farrell was born on 24 September 1991 in Billinge Higher End, Greater Manchester. He began playing rugby league in his hometown at the age of eight for Wigan St Patricks. When his father Andy signed for Saracens in 2005, his family moved to Harpenden where Owen at the age of 13 or 14 was introduced to rugby union for the first time.
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And for those who love a tackle - this one was pretty crucial 😀
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?? My tele's not stopped shaking 
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu6Pfpfhy54