Bailey Pursuit damp

olduns14
olduns14 Forum Participant Posts: 13
edited March 2019 in Caravans #1

Purchased a 2015 Bailey Pursuit in October. Just collected van after service and dreaded damp report shows 100% reading of damp under fixed bed and bathroom. Dealer has submitted warranty report to  Bailey for authority to repair, problem believed to have been caused by locker door, but can this explain bathroom damp reading?.Any comments/advice would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  •  viatorem
    viatorem Forum Participant Posts: 645
    edited March 2019 #2

    Where in the bathroom? Could be cassette door. I had the header tank drain pipe fall off and dumped water into the cassette area. This registered as a damp floor several months later.

    Bed locker, door is a favourite, but just check if there is a roof joint above bed. Check wall adjacent to joint to see if there are signs of drip marks down the wall. Maybe pull the plastic cover of the roof joint off to see if there are signs of damp.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2019 #3

    What model Pursuit

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #4

    It's a  Bailey Pursuit 430/4.The damp is shown as under the bed and 90 % of the bathroom floor stretching from edge of shower tray to around toilet window side.Thanks

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #5

    Thanks for advice,can understand bed locker is likely candidate but can this explain the damp readings in the bathroom?

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2019 #6

    100% damp! surprised You didn't pitch in the wrong place at a site with a swimming pool, did you?

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #7

    Probably your usually appreciated humour is a tad out of place here CY

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2019 #8

    bathroom damp could be leak from window

  • Kerry Watkins
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    edited March 2019 #9

    Is there a possibility the waste from the wash hand basin or shower tray is lleaking? Are the hot and cold water pipes and connections all good? Could be many problems. 

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #10

    Actual comment says 'Reading of 100% in bathroom and under bed.Photos taken.Sealant failure to rear and n/side  & wet locker door sealant failure.' A bit gob smacked at time and need to talk to Service Manager to clarify.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2019 #11

    I suggest the damp under the bed (from side locker door?) is the same water leak that has been leaking for some time,has the c/van been serviced since new?

    Did you get all the warranty paper work from the dealer,? some have a 10yr water ingress warranty, it was an add on to the standard 6yrs ,

    If these questions are not answered I would be inclined to go for a rejection of the van

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2019 #12

    Reading your OP did you purchase it from the dealer,?as i would have thought it would have already been serviced on purchase

  • olduns14
    olduns14 Forum Participant Posts: 13
    edited March 2019 #13

    Yes I have confirmation that it has a 6 year bodywork warranty due to expire 21/3/2021, from both the dealer and  Bailey .It has been serviced by the dealer I purchased from since new, and was assured by the dealer that there was no damp when purchased, when asked for the damp report was told no paperwork is produced when nothing to report . It does seem strange that the level of damp has occurred since October when I purchased the van. At the end of the day I presume I can only wait for Bailey to confirm remedial work can be carried out under warranty and keep a very careful watch .Thank for your help.

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #14

    I was advised that a service needed to be carried out in March to preserve warranty conditions, ie 6 week either side of registration date which appears correct, although was serviced on purchase in October.Thanks

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2019 #15

    It was more a response to the 100% figure. It would be literally running with water at that level of damp.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #16

     It would just mean that the wood behind any impermeable covering had reached a nominally fully saturated state and unable to absorb further moisture; not necessarily a lake. wink

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #17

    Thanks, in that state in your opinion is remedial action feasible?

     

     

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #18

    It is feasible and may require replacement of affected materials. But always feasible.

    I suspect that you may not have an absolute right to reject the purchase but I am not in a position to give advice on that. 

    Personally, and this is only my view, if I had a van like that repaired I would get shut ASAP since I would always wonder what other joints had been poorly sealed. 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2019 #19

    I think it is only the floor  that is made of wood the rest of the Alutec Bailey's are made of non permeable material,and as it is the floor area that is wet if the "leak"is rectified it may just be able to be dried, if the wood is soaked through then it may have too go back to Bailey for a new floor, I think a serious talk with the dealer is called for,and it a load of rubbish that a damp test zero? result would not generate a report ,I have had a report on every service  of both our Alutec Bailey's as they fill the form in as they test for damp

    I suggest the dealer is not being truth full about the October service

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #20

    Thanks everybody for your helpful comments I will be speaking to the service manager this morning so wish me luck!

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #21

    ,and it a load of rubbish that a damp test zero? result would not generate a report 

    I agree with that JVB. At the least I would expect a sheet ticking the tested areas and the generalised comment 'all moisture content found to be in the range 15% to 18%'. If the van had a damp test I would be sceptical that it was not from the time the dealer added the van to stock rather than immediately prior to resale. 

  • Kerry Watkins
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    edited March 2019 #22

    When we have the van servicd a damp report is always provided and also shows a schematic of where the damp tests were carried out, even if no damp is found.

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2019 #23

    My money would be on a leaking shower tray since we had a very similar problem with our Barcelona before we sold it.  Even though it had only been leaking for a couple of days or so, the damp readings under the bed and at the other side of the bathroom, around the toilet were 45%+.

    The problem is, is that there is nothing under the edges of the shower to support it and over time, the sealant gives way - often quite difficult to spot since it only needs a pin hole for the water to get through.

    The fix was relatively easy in our case but it did mean the dealer removing all of the bathroom fittings and furniture to be able to lift the floor covering so that it could dry out - which they did within a week.

    Why other manufacturers don't employ the same technique as in our new Knaus Starclass is beyond me - that has a 6" upstand built into the shower floor, so there's no way water can get through.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #24

    That's if OP uses the shower as many don't

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #25

    Thanks, can't be shower tray as don't use shower.

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2019 #26

    I would await the response from Bailey through the dealer and assuming they accept it under warranty then there should be no problem. If for any reason there is a problem or dispute then post details and we can look at your position against the dealer under The Sale of Goods Act or any finance or credit card company.

  • olduns14
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    edited March 2019 #27

    Thanks for your advice.The dealer has agreed to do the necessary work under warranty including replacing floor as required.Upon my investigation I have seen the external door is not watertight as water can be seen clearly running down inside of door, which I've reported to dealer and have subsequently gaffer taped over external door seals.