So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?
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As many have pointed out up thread the club has changed over the years and continues to change in several way for the benefit of not just motorhomers but all us members, folk can read them at their own leisure. However, probably the most significant change was that acceptance, inclusion and acknowledgement of MHs in the first place.
As far as I'm concerned I really cannot see what changes over and above those already being made are properly feasible or even required. Whilst enjoying good health and mobility I have no issues regarding potable or grey water, which in all honesty some caravaners can also experience the same difficulties too. We have always carried a waste container just in case but even this situation is improving albeit slowly with the introduction of service points for units with on board tanks.
To cut to the crux now, what a few are advocating is change which could have fundamental and costly implication for all of us. What they want is to penny pinch and in doing so pinch space which is either not there in the first place or pinch space already used for other purposes. And why, so they can spend single transit nights on sites across the network! Well folk, here is the news and I love this, we already can, it just costs the same as everyone else on site. Even with space which we know not to be available and money which probably isn't, the introduction of Aires, on sites, would not be beneficial financially or otherwise for the club or us members in my opinion.
I mentioned in an earlier post that we should be careful of what we wish for and I really believe this. Beware, someone, somewhere could just be about to suggest cutting our noses off to spite our faces. The Spector that is minimum nights, previously suggested by some as a solution to their booking problems and also lost income for the club, could raise its head and that would be a disaster for many motorhomers, particularly those advocating Aires or those tinkering but also caravaners alike. Tinkering with existing tariffs will also achieve little if anything. You have been warned!4 -
I'd also use them, but did qualify to M that the main issue for us touring here is the booking culture and how one has to be much more 'prepared' to commit to a planned tour.
having to arrive at a certain place due to the booking puts pressure on potential dawdling....similarly, having to leave at the end of a booking is an issue if we wanted to stay longer...
ok, perhaps in off season, getting these bookings altered to extend or shorten might be doable (but more hassle than I'm interested in) but as we really only use the van here in 'good weather' (and sometimes New Year) a lot of sites are booked which makes alterations even less desirable.
now, if the transit pitches really were for passing trade......no booking, or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating....making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival.
no leccy, large enough for caravans too, £12 max a night?
Ps, Mickey....I'm advocating max no of nights on these not min number which you seem so concerned about. I was thinking about fast turnover...and a decent price (not penny pinching) for a 'transit-style' pitch...
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“Perhaps no reduction on Friday and Saturday nights may be a needed restriction, etc.”
Hey, why not call it ‘Mid Week Discount’?👍🏻
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Want your cake and eat it? The club already has a lack of much needed pitches across the network we are told, your suggestion would be lost revenue, sites which are full are full. May be those few sites with capacity are those which some, not me, class as in the wrong place for motorhomers.
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If I am visiting remoter parts I check for supermarket availability. It matters not if it is 20 miles away if it is near somewhere we are likely to visit on our stay. Usually there is somewhere within 10 miles.
I think I would struggle with Croatian but as we eat little pre prepared food could probably manage. (Zapečeni grah, Tinned rajčice, kobasica)
I don't speak any Greek or Maltese either beyond please thanks, hello etc. French is OK though for shopping in France. It has amused me several times in the past that when in a Belgium market a trader has pretended not to understand a French person, but when the trader's English is poor seem to understand my French perfectly.0 -
now, if the transit pitches really were for passing trade......no booking, or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating....making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival.
No booking with a guaranteed pitch on arrival.
no leccy, large enough for caravans too, £12 max a night?
If a pitch is large enough for a motorhome and provides the 6m safety clearance it is automatically large enough for caravans. No leccy to suit a minority who don't want eleccy and all the space, and other facilities for £12 When I suspect that it costs us as a couple £10 for these facilities alone? Get thee to a nunnery .... I mean CL
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No booking with a guaranteed pitch on arrival.
Now that really IS a combination of Harry Potter stuff and changing the Laws of Physics!
How can a pitch be guaranteed to be available, if more people have arrived before one than there are actual pitches in existance?
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I have seen a line up of more than one Turdis at a National Rally. Still had a queue.
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Don't see how a pitch could be guranteed unless you booked. Currently if I just turned up and a site was full and they had a late night arrivals area, I would hope I would be allowed to use it for the night without hook up if so desired.
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Some folks have a very strange idea about touring over here. Fresh bread and coffee.....? We had to cut back on our intake of freshly baked bread on our Cornish holidays, it was so easy to get it each morning. We aren’t fans of bought coffee, preferring our own mix and own brew. But by the time OH had sorted coffee out, I was back from a short stroll with dogs to local shop carrying a still warm loaf of our choice......and homemade jams and lemon curd to go with it. It was and still remains our favourite part of the day. That’s of course if we weren’t on the beach for a swim early, taking breakfast with us to enjoy after!
I can give lessons in how to tour, stay, live, shop, enjoy ones self very happily in UK, as I am sure can lots of other folks who do the same as us. And in all sorts of weather. Despite having lovely holidays overseas, some appear to struggle when they are at home.🤔 I find an open minded, ability to compromise works well. Which is how I would go about a trip overseas, make the most of what the prevailing culture offers, and don’t impose different needs and demands just to suit myself.
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Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park, in Scotland is carrying out a survey of people who own a motorhome or campervan, to help improve the experience of visitors to the Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park. Here is a chance to tell the park what facilities you might like.
https://www.snapsurveys.com/wh/s.asp?k=154955502381
The Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park has worked hard over the years to balance the access needs of all visitors, including wild campers, with the need to protect the environment from the impact of inconsiderate behaviour.
It will take around 10 minutes to complete. Results will appear in MMM magazine later this year, where I learned of this survey.
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shopping for fresh bread, etc. and coffee in the morning is the norm over here.
I now have this image of the whole of France and Germany covered by a network of small shops selling bread and newspaper, none more than one of their kilometers apart.
Certainly was nothing like that the last time I looked though!
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several times in the past that when in a Belgium market a trader has pretended not to understand a French person, but when the trader's English is poor seem to understand my French perfectly.
I have had a similar experience in Wales with shopkeepers not speaking English to the customer ahead, but talking normally to me. One time when I querried this the nice lady explained that it was because I was not speaking English, but Scottish!
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Mickey, if you remember, I wasn't advocating selling existing pitches 'cheaply'...I was for creating new ones from other areas of the sites...areas which bring little or no revenue at the moment..
so, actually increasing turnover and profit...
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If the areas were suitable for pitches they’d already be in use as such.
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There nature of the survey at least indicates the desire to meet the needs of motor-homers in future planning.
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And to totally ignore and exclude any planning for trailer caravans.
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At least they don’t claim to be an all inclusive club.
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.no booking.... yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival.
A guaranteed pitch with out booking??? Now that really is even beyond the laws of psychics (not a spelling mistake btw)
Post edit, sorry read these in order so see others have picked up on this impossibility.
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existing areas such as car parks that serve others? or maybe the play area? dog walk? playing fields
I don't recall club sites having that much spare areas apart from those I have just said
And profit if there is an interest in such pitches, is there are from on here, and if done could lead to CLs shutting?
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It appear, to me anyway, quite simple. If you want a cheap no frills site use a CL or similar, night stop. If you want to stay on a club and have all the benefits of a club site then pay up to use one.
You know what you are going to get in a club site price wise and facility wise, if that does not appeal don't use it.
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of course, just remember you still have to pay before you leave EHU or not, anything else is called someone like stealing.
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