Bailey Grande Brindisi

Dave7339
Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
edited February 2019 in Caravans #1

We have purchased a Bailey Grande Brindisi  which does not have an alko receiver. I have put my existing Excalibur lock on but due to the narrow gap between the alloy wheel and brake drum it is a very tight fit. I am not even sure an alko lock would fit. On checking the Alko site it states :-

IMPORTANT NOTES:

The AL-KO Secure is not suitable for 2361 brakes fitted with 14” alloy wheels

I am waiting to hear back from the dealer who in turn are waiting to hear back from Bailey and Alko with regards which drum I have.

Has anyone any experience of this.And would the Nemisis ultra fit?

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  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2019 #2

    We have the Nemisis Ultra and it should fit provided there are wide enough slats in the wheel. Basically you remove a wheel nut and replace it with the Nemisis one and the clamp fits into that with a steel bar going through the wheel slat.  The bar should go through the one of the bottom sections of the wheel so the brake drum should not be a problem. You get two nuts so you can fit one either side if you wish and lock the side that suits you.

    There is also a new and similar lock from Milenco which I have not seen but might be worth checking out. 

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #3

    Thanks for that Wildwood. The problem is that the gap the bar goes through between the brake drum and alloy wheel is less than an inch.

  • lornalou1
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    edited February 2019 #4

    the two wheel bolts supplied are different depths as dependant on the depth of the wheel not to fit one on each side.( but is possible ).

  • lornalou1
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    edited February 2019 #5

    Dave, why not something like this--

    https://www.safe.co.uk/products/centaur-ca2000-wheel-clamp.htm

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2019 #6

     It states in the brochure that Alko secure is only available for the twin axle models of the new pegasus grande no mention of what is available for single axle models 

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #7

    Thanks JVB66 I was aware of that. It doesn't come with the alko receiver but you can have it fitted. I was looking at the milenco ace or the Nemisis Ultra but like I said i don't know if the bar will pass between brake drum and alloy.

  • Fozzie
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    edited February 2019 #8

    I wonder how insurances companies will handle this.Especially when the receiver is not factory fitted.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2019 #9

    Any one going to the show this week maybe could help the OP out by asking Bailey what can be done? then post back on heresurprised

    It sounds like a lot of things these days that are "designed?" by those who would never use the product

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #10

    It cost me £18 more Fozzie because it wasn't fitted. Its £150 to have the receiver fitted by Lee Davey if they can do it.

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #11

    Finally got a response from Bailey.

    Good Morning Dave,

    Unfortunately although a receiver can be purchased for the 2361 hub, as feared – one cannot be fitted to the Brindisi Grande as a 15” wheel is required for enough clearance between the drum and the wheel. As a result of this a receiver cannot be fitted to your caravan.

    Wheel clamp it is then.

  • Fozzie
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    edited February 2019 #12

    Dave 7339

    At least your insurance at £18 premium wasn't that bad.On my insurance through this Club it is a stipulation it is fitted.

     

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #13

    In short Bailey have built a van that will not take an Alko hub lock nor any lock including their own branded Bailey Nemisis ultra lock that relies on a bar passing between the hub and the alloy wheel. If they had put 15inch wheels on it would not have been a problem.For some reason the brake hub on the Grande range is bigger than other models.

    Im off to the dealers now for a "chat" Expectations are low but it will make me feel better.

    Fullstop Nemesis wheel clamp maybe the answer.

     

    If anyone wants to but a complete Alko wheel kit number 39 I know someone who has one.

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #14

    So what happens with the likes of me.Perhaps someone from the Club could advise.

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2019 #15

    Never spotted that in the instructions.

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2019 #16

    I have one of those as well. It is certainly a heavy piece of kit and would take some effort to get off and might make thieves look elsewhere.

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #17

    Well I got that off my chest.

    The Bailey Nemisis ultra lock will just fit as it has just a smaller diameter than the Excalibur.

    Decision time. 

  • Boff
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    edited February 2019 #18

    The reply rather begs the question.  Why the hell don’t they fit 15” wheels then?

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #19

    Absolutely Boff. I was told because the van has a 1600kg chassis the hubs are bigger but like you said why not just put 15inch wheels on.

  • Boff
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    edited February 2019 #20

    Isn’t Bailey nemesis lock the same as the purple line lock apart from colour and cost or am I missing something?

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #21

    No you are right Boff.

  • andyukuk
    andyukuk Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited February 2019 #22

    Hi dave can I ask which lock you fitted in the end as I'm just about to take delivery of a grande rimini and wish to get a lock for it. Many thanks 

    Andy 

  • Dave7339
    Dave7339 Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2019 #23

    Hi Andy I got the Nemesis Ultra in the end. Fits okay.

  • andyukuk
    andyukuk Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited February 2019 #24

    Many thanks 

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