2017 Peugeot boxer low tyre pressure warning lamp

dougA
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edited March 2018 in Motorhomes #1

Hi I reduced my tyre pressure on my Peugeot for a softer ride. As the warning light comes on I have increased the tyre pressure back to where they were but the warning light and info on the dash still shows low tyre pressure.

i have looked everywhere for a reset button and then n the menu to reset but I am unable to find anything.

Does anyone know how I reset the tyre warning light so it goes off?

 

doug

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #2

    Our warning light went out of its own accord once the tyre pressure was corrected, Doug. I think the sensors are ultra sensitive to even the slightest drop in pressure. Ours is also a 2017 model.

    We have adjustable air suspension and can use that to alter the ride.

  • dougA
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    edited March 2018 #3

    Thanks Tinwheeler, I’ve just inflated the tyres to the pressures on the cab plate but the low pressures are still showing on the dash. I have switched the ignition on and off but it’s still not reset. Maybe I need to go a wee run to see if it resets on its own accord.

  • PaulandKate
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    edited March 2018 #4

    Go for a drive for about 20 to 30 mins they need a run to reset themselves 

    The alarm comes on if the pressure drops by 10psi 

    I dropped ours gradually to 72 rear and 68 fronts dropping 5psi per trip allowing the 20 mins driving between each adjustment 

    Or book it in to peugeot and they can set them to whatever you want think I was quoted 300 quid 

  • dougA
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    edited March 2018 #5

    Thanks paulandkate. That’s confirmed what I was thinking after Tinwheelers reply. I will be out at the weekend so I’ll see what happens and then try reducing the pressure gradually as you say.

    Thanks again Gents 👍

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2018 #6

    I've just managed to get the light to go out on mine (2016) as well. The lowest I can get mine on the rears are 78psi. Based on axle loads I should be running at around 62 Front 68 Rears. There's no way I'm paying three hundred quid for a reset. surprised The choice is between always having a warning light on or the fillings being shaken out of my teeth.

  • BrianJosie
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    edited March 2018 #7

    Hi there ,some TPMS systems reset themselves after about 40mls.Or there should be a step by step procedure in the handbook which takes only a couple of minutes ,if that.

    Brian & Jo

  • hitchglitch
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    edited March 2018 #8

    There has been a lot of discussion on Peugeot tyre pressures on various forums. It seems that the he warning indication is set to work with the pressures on the bulkhead inside the passenger door. Unfortunately these pressures are not necessarily the appropriate pressures for your vehicle and axle load. The only way to determine the best pressure is to take your fully loaded van to a weighbridge and check each axle. There is then published information for the make and size of tyres fitted. In my case I emailed Continental and got a very good response.

    You will probably find that the recommended pressure is quite a bit lower than the Peugeot pre-set on at least one axle but you cannot alter the setting yourself. If you inflate to the Peugeot recommendation the warning should eventually reset. If not then it’s a fault with the system.

  • dougA
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    edited March 2018 #9

    Hi  hitchglitch I was running with lower pressures than what the cab card says but the warning of low pressures is so annoying. I decided to inflate to what it was originally but the warnings stayed on. I searched the menu and looked for a reset button but as mentioned on here by a few members the 2017 model seems to reset itself after driving for a few miles or time.

    Im with cyberyacht here and won’t be paying £300 for Peugeot to lower the warning pressure limit.

    I be out on Friday so fingers crossed it will reset itself and the warning light will go off.

    thanks again all for your replies 👍

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2018 #10

    I realise it won't happen (though, is customer service still alive and well..?) but shouldn't the dealer (with Peugeots help if required) be setting these things to what the customer (paying, dearly) wants?

    im so glad we don't have one of these things....can't you rip the wires out!?wink

  • hitchglitch
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    edited March 2018 #11

    It sounds daft, but the highly experienced people at the Autosleeper’s main factory workshop didn’t seem to have a clue. When I was last there I asked them to top up the tyre pressures as the warning had come on. They asked me what pressure I wanted then pointed to the Continental tyre which has an apparent pressure limit on it. When I researched this, Continental told me that the limit was for USA purposes and should be ignored in the UK. So, if the workshop doesn’t understand the problem I don’t have much faith in them feeding it back to the factory next door.

    To be fair though, the correct pressure can only be determined in relation to the exact tyre fitted and the individual axle load when fully laden which will vary with the customer. Nevertheless there is a definite lack of knowledge amongst the dealers and service workshops. 

  • dougA
    dougA Forum Participant Posts: 142
    edited March 2018 #12

    After inflating the tyres to the pressures on the cab plate the warning lights stayed on.

    As mentioned I took the MH out today for a wee run to see if the low warning pressure light would go off.

    Good news the warning light reset after only about 500yds.

    So your replies was correct it reset itself after a short drive.

    cheers everyone 👍😀

     

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #13

    That’s good to know, Doug.

    I heard somewhere that the system doesn’t actually measure the air pressure in the tyres but calculates it from the amount of tyre surface in contact with the road, or something like that. The gauge resetting on the move seems to bear that out.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #14

    It'll be the same as my car. It'll use the ABS to monitor the average wheel speeds & look for a wheel that's going that bit faster than the others (the soft tyre is effectively a bit smaller) and then give a warning that one of the tyres is soft/flat. I'm not sure how any car could look at the tyre foot print 🤔

    Clever (expensive) systems have a pressure/temp sensor in each tyre on the tyre valve that can give you individual tyre pressures .... the valves can be expensive 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #15

    Thanks, MM. I couldn’t quite remember what it was.

    I can’t imagine the Boxer having the clever/expensive system surprisedlaughing

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2018 #16

    My 2016 Boxer tells me which tyre and what the pressure is. Seems pretty clever to me. How it does it I have no idea.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2018 #17

    The valve has a pressure, temperature sensor built into it this talks to a box of electrickery in the vehicle.

  • RoDaCro
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    edited January 2019 #18

    I have a 2017 Majestic 135, last year I had four Tyron bands fitted and when I turned on the ignition after fitting the tyre pressure warning light was on. When i next went out for a run I noticed after about half a mile the warning light had gone off.

  • lornalou1
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    edited January 2019 #19

    they don't work on the circumference or tyre contact with the road as if tyre were worn by a couple of mills they would give a warning of low pressure and that's not correct as pressure is still the same.

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2019 #20

    CY, I'm surprised at the levels you quote...ours (Continental Vanco) are as follows, from an email from Continental...

    "ContiVanco Camper 225/75 R16 (CP*) 116 R tyres.

    Front Axle: 1600 Kg - 3.0 bar/ 43.5 psi (max weight for pressure given = 1730 kg)

    Rear Axle: 1820 Kg - 3.75 bar/ 54.3 psi (max weight for pressure given = 1840 kg)"

    you'll see our all up weight is 3420kg.....I'm sure I've seen your figures at less than that...?

    what are your axle weights? 62 and 68 psi look mighty hard to me, are they Contis or Michelins?

    im actually running at 50 front and 60 rear as long term test, seems fine and the ride is good.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2019 #21

    With my axle loads the recommended Continental tyre pressures are 47/76 psi. Quite firm at the rear. I could reduce the front but the warning light will be on permanently so I haven’t bothered. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2019 #22

    Here you go, LL. Courtesy of Wikipedia.

     
    "Indirect TPMS do not use physical pressure sensors but measure air pressures by monitoring individual wheel rotational speeds and other signals available outside of the tire itself. First generation iTPMS systems are based on the principle that under-inflated tires have a slightly smaller diameter (and hence higher angular velocity) than a correctly inflated one. These differences are measurable through the wheel speed sensors of ABS/ESC systems. Second generation iTPMS can also detect simultaneous under-inflation in up to all four tires using spectrum analysis of individual wheels, which can be realized in software using advanced signal processing techniques."

  • mylo
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    edited January 2019 #23

    Hi most of later systems you can set your tyre pressures then go into set meanu and store pressure then light will only come when a tyre loses pressure or when you have new tyres fitted then stored again light will go out should be in your hand 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2019 #24

    They do, they work as I said above. The indirect system compares the average speed of each wheel and it's only the circumference that's in contact with the road. I can put what ever pressure I want into each or any of my tyres & tell the car they're the pressures to use as a set point.

  • mylo
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    edited January 2019 #25

    No I was talking about later type that has senser inside tyre not the early type that works of abs sensors

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2019 #26

    It's all a bit academic, BB. Unless I'm prepared to put up with constant nagging by the system I have to put up with the factory defaults. I suppose taking a few paving slabs on holiday would solve it and give me my own hardstanding. wink

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2019 #27

    ah, the helpful TPMS....frown

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2019 #28

    That'll be the direct system then. Not really about early or later systems ... more about the fact that some kind of TPMS is now a required fitment by car manufacturers so they fit the cheaper indirect system. Though I have indirect on my car, direct was an option .... like everything else on a Merc

  • KevinParker
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    edited December 2019 #29

    I have just had my front tyres changed and can confirm the valves have a large block behind them, this is the tyre pressure sensor. So it’s not a function of the abs system, it’s actual pressure. Hopefully my warning will go away soon!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2019 #30

    From what I've picked up, the TPMS on these vehicles is programmed to alarm at a pre-determined pressure so will always look for a specific pressure to alarm at ... driving won't make any difference unless the low pressure threshold can be altered 🤔

  • rayjsj
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    edited December 2019 #31

    I thankfully dont have aTPMS fitted to my 2014 Fiat Autotrail, but IF I did, and it could not be adjusted by ME the operator and owner of the vehicle to the correct alarm level for the correct running pressures, Then at the next tyre removal the sensors would be removed and an adjustable commercial and more importantly user adjustable system  fitted instead. and the unadjustable alarm.....disabled permanently.

    .