Who is Nick Lomas kidding ?

Wayne and Judie Seaborn
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edited January 2019 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Interesting to read Nick Lomas editorial in the January 2019 magazine.  One wonders who he is kidding when he proclaims that the new booking system has achieved the best ever booking levels. Well of course it will have. Half of us might be dead in the next 12 months but hey ho we can book and cancel with just 72 hours left before the booking at no cost, how does that process support real members who want to book when perhaps 40% of summer bookings will not materlise through cancellations.

How long  will it be, as he suggests it will be, before deposits and even longer booking periods arrive. We frankly support deposits and some process that prevents block bookings of Friday and Saturday but come on Nick, give us more credit than to think your new booking system has been a fantastic success . If your confident lets see the ratio of bookings against actual uptakes of bookings. From what every one is saying members are block booking for months or a near year ahead but who will then cancel near the time. This is not a success it's frankly a way of disadvantaging members in real bookings.

Watch this space for deposits and booking restrictions.

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  • JVB66
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    edited January 2019 #2

    "Happy New Year?"no resolutions to improve your"unusual" observasional inputs thentongue-out

  • SUBBY
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    edited January 2019 #3

    I don't care how I have to book i in advance because I like to organise my  time  but if deposits were brought back in i would leave by the way I have never considerd cancelling for any reason other than vehicle breakdown

  • scarletsfan
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    edited January 2019 #4

    Yawn!!!!!!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2019 #5

    "From what every one is saying members are block booking for months …"

    I'm not saying that so your statement is already incorrect before we start analysing the rest.

    Happy New Year.

  • Wayne and Judie Seaborn
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    edited January 2019 #6

    Standard Tinwheeler response never constructive, what's new or worth debating. Yes that's a big complex word Debating !!!!!!!

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2019 #7

    Not that any of your "exaggerated"posts are "helpful"wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #8

    yes please debate without being offensive W&J, why attack TW when he has made a serious and legitimate observation? 

    you posted:

    From what every one is saying members are block booking for months

    As TW has not said that, and neither have I has how can that be everyone? So your statement is incorrect. 

    If the current booking levels are the best ever (or are you saying he is lying?) and he believes they have come from the new booking system then why does he have to be kidding? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2019 #9

    I debate the point of "everyone" saying members are block booking and I categorically state that "everyone" is not. I am living proof of that.

    Therefore, I am justified in dismissing that point as being totally inaccurate.

    Now, did NL really suggest deposits and longer booking periods are on the way? I don’t recall that so a link or actual quote will be appreciated, please.

  • Wayne and Judie Seaborn
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    edited January 2019 #10

    Good job it's not war, can see how difficult it must have been with individuals simply denying the real facts.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #11

    how does that process support real members who want to book when perhaps 40% of summer bookings will not materlise through cancellations.

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." Which one was this W&J? 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #12

    That is totally lost on me W&J. Please could you say what these real facts are, and who is denying them?, or is this a wind-up game to you?

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2019 #13

    Only if they are as usual with your posts inaccurate and  what seems a figment of your imaginationfoot-in-mouth

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #14

    not any, it is just soothsaying

  • Wayne and Judie Seaborn
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    edited January 2019 #15

    Clearly heading for a committee slot, not even a need to brain wash 🤣

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2019 #16

    Thought the new year might have done that for you, but then?

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #17

    I have no idea where you get your 'facts' from. I suppose that, as usual, a work of fiction and a flight of fancy. Have you ever considered writing children's fiction W&J?  

  • Wayne and Judie Seaborn
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    edited January 2019 #18

    Read the  editorial in depth. Let's have the conversation in the Autumn when reality will be fact. Seems there are 3 of you who can only support the club whatever. Pity we cannot get real members views, clearly you regular 3 are never that. Spoils the whole concept of a forum.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2019 #19

    Do you know, W&J, I feel so sorry for people who can only ever see the worst in others, for those pessimists who only see doom and gloom and for those who cannot make friends because they demonstrate their miseries and unfriendliness so clearly. It must be such a lonely world they inhabit.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2019 #20

    Real members? what is your position? seeing as i do not think any of your posts can be from a real member couplesurprised

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #21

    I thought that facts and reality were one and the same. Obviously you have no facts and defame posters, who are long term members but who cannot swallow your unproven 'statistics'.

     

  • 63ellsbells
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    edited January 2019 #22

    Bye then 😉

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #23

    sorry but this is one of your wind ups. I have asked you what facts are being denied and you have not replied?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #24

    +1

    I hope your post has provided some entertainment for you this evening.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2019 #25

    Curiouser & curiouser🤔

  • trellis
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    edited January 2019 #26

    Nice to see another episode of the W&J show . Pity its a Repeat .If you can back up your comments with actual figures , being a"real" member I would happily support you. So put up ..or shut up .

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2019 #27

     

     

    "From what everyone is saying", "Half of us", "40%"  Where do these figures come from? Where do the notions that deposits are about to be introduced and that block bookings are significantly and detrimentally effecting the experiences attributed to the new booking system come from?

     It's a shame, I'm afraid, as I see no real attempt to open meaningful debate in the OP just some incorrect facts, skewed data and novel interpretation of members wishes, beliefs and booking practices. One does question if the purpose is to promote discord or that there is a hidden agenda to influence decision making for personal benefit. 

    My personal experience, and I can really only speak for me, is that the new booking system has been by enlarge successful. We've been able to forward plan far better for dates including annual events around the country of interest to us, family get togethers and also those impromptu trips made at the last minute. When all said and done I do have to appreciate that once a site is full, it's full mind, but nothing in the booking ether can change that, can it?

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #28

    agree fully especially with your last sentence in paragraph two,

    Like you were have found the new system works very well to our advantage. We have booked 'honeypot' sites that we never got before and it's a nice feeling seeing my bookings spread over a year. 

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2019 #29

    Perhaps we should have another Avatar.

    "Real Member".

    Just what is a real member W&J?  Or is that definition as nebulous as the other information you have provided.🤔

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #30

    I think that a 'real member' for W&J is one that agrees with them?

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2019 #31

    ....even if the prices for some might be wrongly shown?frown