Brexit 2018 - Travelling to Europe
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I hope that you have a great time. For me too a big part of the pleasure is in the planning but of course the beauty of going at that time of year means that you don't have to book anything. Last year I think I booked the ferry a couple of days before we travelled having only found out at the last minute that we could go.
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If there are delays, think of the positives. It would be an opportunity to stroll around chatting to others, admiring their outfits and generally sharing your frustration at the delay. You could make friends for life!
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I did see that France may decide to make visitors from the UK apply for visas and also instigate new rules for residents in France who are UK citizens. Applying for visas would likely bring administrative nightmare if there are insufficient staff to handle it, so yet more delays.
However it might be just another poker chip being played.
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According to the Economist around 6 million Brits went to France in 2016 and double that number went to Spain. It would seem to me that for those countries to make it more difficult for our citizens to visit would be cutting off one's nose to spit their face? This story has come about because, as I understanding it, the French have set up some reserve legislation just in case talks fail and we don't enter into a transition period. If we manage to strike a deal of some sort no doubt that reserve legislation will just gather dust in the Palais du Luxembourg or the Palais Bourbon or maybe both!
David
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There is already a list of countries whose citizens can enter EU/Shenghen area countries for up to 90 days without needing a visa. This list includes citizens of USA, Australia and New Zealand and I have no doubt UK citizens will be added to that list for visits up to 90 days too.
But citizens of those overseas countries do need a visa for stays in Europe longer than 90 days, and it is possible, but not yet certain, that might also affect UK citizens - for example those going to Spain for long winter stays over the 90 day limit.
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Those roadworks are going to last a good eighteen months as they build a footbridge across the road and then upgrade the road.
We returned from Germany last week via Hull with no checks from Germany to Holland, minor checks onto the ferry,then no checks in Hull except for passport control which is always slow anyway. The ferry was very quiet both ways.
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It is good to see that my post has created so many replies. It is also good to see that so many of us a fairly determined to keep going to mainland Europe if it does not become too difficult.
With that attitude in mind, I have tried to obtain an international driving permit to be on the safe side and avoid any logjams if we suddenly need one. The information on the web is that you can get a permit at your local post office and the PO helpfully provide a list of offices that issue them. Sadly, that is not the case. Almost all of the POs that I have tried stopped issuing them years ago. And no, I have not been able to get one on-line either. I will keep on trying and post on here if I manage to find one.
Merry Xmas to you all.
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Looks like you can get one from the RAC and AA. Does not look as though you need to be a member. Only lasts a year though.
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Dunclair, with regard to IDPs please note that you can only get the 1949 Convention IDP from a very small number of Post Offices and the 2 Third Parties mentioned. This will allow you to travel in Spain. However you cannot get the 1968 Convention IDP which covers France and most of the other EU (non island) countries from 1st.February but it will be available from about 2,500 P.Os and won't be available then from ths AA or RAC. Clear?
You will in effect need 2 IDPs if travelling to France and Spain or through Spain to Portugal. Each IDP will cost £5.50. Thd 1968 one will only come into force on 28th.March.
Of course all of this could change at the drop of a hat so keep your eye on things.
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Ans some people insist that travelling "over there" is simple!!
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If future national UK driving licences continue to have a photo ID and the categories that one is allowed to drive remain unchanged or at least readable to a foreign traffic officer without a working knowledge of English, why would one be required to have an IDP at all?
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Even if the poisoned chalice of "a deal" is declined, it does not necessarily follow that EU countries will insist on the additional documentation.
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The whole purpose of an IDP is to ensure a common standard which can be recognised internationally without knowledge of each other's language and at the same time provide proof of identity of the holder. A national driving licence that already fulfils that requirement obviously wouldn't automatically need an IDP.
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Knowing what a bunch of plonkers we have running the show, I wouldn't be surprised if we just let them carry on as before even if they have us jumping through various hoops.
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Having read a couple of threads about travelling in the EU after March, we decided to investigate getting and IDP for our trip in June, after all £5.50 isn't much and may possibly save some stress nearer the time.
Hubby called into the Post Office this morning for a form and has been told that we've always needed one! However, he's got the form ready to read through and was also told that they can issue the permit over the counter.
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Lutz, we are already onto our 6th. case worst scenario. Believe me when I say that the whole country was relieved when the festive break came just so we wouldn't have to listen to our inept politicians for a while.
I noticed an omission from my IDP post. I should have said until 1st.February. Missing out until makes a difference.
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