No deal and pet travel post 29 March 2019
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Yes and BF sent out the below email today, some hassle and more money at the vets but still cheaper than leaving them at home in kennels, if you can bear to do that
Travelling with a pet after 29 March 2019
After 29 March 2019, you will still be able to travel with your pet to Europe whether a deal is reached between the United Kingdom and the European Union on the terms of exit, or not. In the event of there being "No Deal", you may need to take some additional steps for travel to be possible and what follows is the best advice we've been able to secure.
The UK Government recommends that you contact your vet at least 4 months in advance of travel to check what you may need to fulfil the requirements for travel.
The requirements for travel would include making sure that your pet is effectively vaccinated against rabies. This would require:
• An up-to-date rabies vaccination.
• A blood test to demonstrate sufficient levels of rabies antibody.The blood test would need to be carried out a minimum of 30 days after any initial rabies vaccination and a minimum of 3 months before your travel date. More information can be found at www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit or on the Government's technical notice on Pet Travel if there's no Brexit deal.
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As I don’t have a pet to take abroad and probably never will this won’t bother me.
I can only hope that the UK border authorities are vigilant about pets being brought in to the UK, by both UK and foreign nationals, and these pets have the correct health checks and certificates, .
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We received the same information in an email from Eurotunnel, and we do travel with pets. Fortunately I already knew about it so we've already arranged a first vet visit, and a blood test for her a week on Friday so we should have no problems.
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Unfortunately those of us who travel with a pet, and who are likely to be in Europe on 'the day' have little choice not to 'keep calm and carry on' but to be sensible and take whatever action is required. For us that means it makes sense to visit a vet, get a blood test which hopefully says our cat's rabies vaccination is effective, and if not to repeat the vaccination and blood test, and then we should be ok.
If you don't travel with a pet, or do, but aren't going to be in Europe until much later in the year, then you can afford to sit it out and wait....... but I would rather be safe than sorry.0 -
A blue job? I misread that at first.
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Sorry, I was replying to DD's astonishing admission in another thread. Delete?
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Pet border checks are done by the carrier, ie, Eurotunnel or ferry company. In more than 40 crossings we have only been checked once by Border Agency type personnel and that was at Dun Laoghaire (which is now closed) on the way back from Ireland. People are warned to take their Pet Passports with them when visiting Ireland, glad we did!!
The Pet Passport office at Eurotunnel is the only place that really checks the documentation thoroughly. I have seen people turned away because of wrong times, dates and vets details being incorrect. Once a person tried to present a photo copy of the passport. They claimed that the vet in Italy said it would be OK!!
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Going backwards and forwards to France, our pet passport has been checked every time, by all the carriers we've used (DFDS, P&0, Brittany Ferries and Eurotunnel) on the way back to the UK - and out cat has been scanned to make sure the microchip is still working. I have seen British and other nationalities turned away by Eurotunnel if their pet passports/microchip isn't correct.
On another forum this week someone reported that their pet was unable to travel because the original rabies vaccination was done two days before her pet was twelve weeks old - and she had to leave him in Calais at a sympathetic vet's surgery.
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Just phoned my vet. Our two dogs are due their rabies 3 yearly booster by 17th Nov. I have been told that as long as their vaccinations are up to date and all details on the passport are correct there is no change. The blood test etc, are for people applying for a new passport. Hope he is right.
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Your vet needs to read this from the link in the first post in this thread (my highlighting in bold):
However, to allow effective contingency planning in the worst case scenario of the UK not being granted third country status, you’ll need to take the following steps to make sure your pet can travel after 29 March 2019:
You must get your dog, cat or ferret microchipped and then vaccinated against rabies before it can travel.
Your pet must have a blood sample taken at least 30 days after the rabies vaccination.
You’ll need to talk to your vet about whether you need a rabies vaccination or booster before this test.
Your vet must send the blood sample to an EU-approved blood testing laboratory.
The results of the blood test must show that the vaccination was successful (Your pet must have a rabies antibody level of at least 0.5 IU/ml).
You must wait 3 months from the date the successful blood sample was taken before you travel.0 -
Firstly I would suggest you print out the information from the website, and take it along to your vet and ask advice. There may be a tendency to say 'Wait and see' but my view is that if it affects you, you need to be proactive.
Did your dog have a blood test (in the early days of the pet passport a blood test was required) - and is the result of that test written in his/her passport? If it is then according to the information in the post you should be Ok for outward travel because nothing will have changed, but you need to make sure you are OK to come back. If the dog hasn't already had a blood test then I would make an appointment sharpish and get a blood test done for 'rabies titre' and make sure that the result is in the passport before you set off from the UK. Your May return date means that you'll have to visit a Spanish vet to get a certificate that your pet is fit to travel - as well as the 'normal' requirements for worming etc - before you come home!0 -
A few days ago it was announced that in the event of "no deal", in addition to all said above regarding blood tests etc, you will need a Health Certificate issuing by your vet at a cost of £55. This must be issued not more than 10 days before you travel, and is only valid for one trip. I still have no idea what will be required by the UK authorities to allow pets back in - will we still use the passport?
We travel to Spain in February, but are returning before 29th March, so no change for us for that trip. If our friends in the EU intend deliberately making it difficult for us to take our dog, then they can manage without the money we spend over there. We only bought a caravan so that we could take our dog with us - we'll just stick to the UK after Brexit.
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Is the new regulation coming from the EU or UK authorities? The reason I ask is, does this mean that there will be Pet Passport checks on the way out, as well as on the way back. If there is going to be checks now on the way out, fine, if not this is another case of project fear.
If there are no outbound checks, then, as when the pet passports first started you can have the rabies jab, then blood test and go abroad as long as your trip back was after the 3 month date was up.
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I have been taking my pet abroad for 11 years at present when you first apply for a pets passport you go to
the vet and they will microchip it and give it an anti rabies vaccine you will have to wait about 30 days and then your pet will have to have a blood test then they will issue your pet with passport depending on the result of the blood test you are then allowed to take your pet abroad but you must not return until 3 months after the passport has been issued. When returning to the UK you have to see a vet over there within 120 hours of returning the vet will check your pets microchip with the number in their passport,examine your pet to see if it is fit to travel, give it a worming tablet,stamp and sign your pets passport and charge you according to your pets size.When you are at the ferry port you show your pets passport when you check in they give you a chip reader and check the number with the one entered in the passport by the way your pet has to a booster injection at your own vets every 3 years as I said earlier I have been taking my dog abroad for 11 years and never had a problem if it differs from from this after we leave the EU I would like to know how.
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Yes, but if your pet travelled for the first time after the blood test was no longer required, things have changed. You may have to get a blood test done for the first time if you want to travel after 31/03/2019. Our cat travelled for the first time in 2014 - long after the blood test was required, so we have to take her soon to have a blood test to make sure that whatever happens we are able to travel in March 2019.
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Hammer, you say "If it differs from this after we leave the EU I would like to know how"..
And that's the question none of us can answer yet, I'm afraid. Many things may well be different after we leave, but as yet we haven't been told. I think we shall all have to be patient for just a little longer. But taking pet animals across the Channel may not be the biggest or most important of the changes.
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I tend to go to North Brittany a lot there are quite a few caravanners from Jersey there as they are not allowed caravans in Jersey so the keep their
vans in storage there. What I am getting at is that they take their pets with them and as far as I know Jersey are not in the EU and never have been
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Project Fear yet again !!!!
Why should the requirements for returning to the UK with your Pet change as a result of a Brexit deal or no deal. This would be a decision made by the UK not the EU.
If the EU and the European Court of INJUSTICE wish to setup pet control checks at departure points in the UK then we would have to meat their requirement, but since UK is currently clear of rabies why would they???
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Have I got it right ? Dog travel across the Channel to remain the same but humans will need to have visas for tourist visits lasting more than 90 days. So free movement of dogs will continue but free movement of people will stop. Is that it?
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We are travelling third week of April next year. Just been to the Vet for our dogs annual booster, it made sense whilst we were there to pay the extra £93 for the pleasure of the lab testing for the Rabies antibodies level in her. We are having to cover both aspects of the UK being a listed third country or not as seen by the EU, else our travel date will be affected.
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If the EU and the European Court of INJUSTICE wish to setup pet control checks at departure points in the UK then we would have to meat their requirement,
The EU already have animal control points set up at numerous points of entry around their borders for Non EU entries. There is a list of the points of entry somewhere in all the documents that have been published, All the channel ports are on the list - it is just that as members of the EU we have never had to be checked at these points.
but since UK is currently clear of rabies why would they???
They would just to be as awkward as they can.
What no one has said is what our government (whats left of it after this morning's blood bath) will require for re-entry to the UK.
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Project Fear yet again !!!!
This is a minor example of project fear but is an indication of how false news is used. Very little of the information put out is based on fact or definative outcomes, but more on individuals opinions of what might happen under certain circumstances.
As far as I can see DEFRA have not and are unlikly to change requirements for pets reterning from EU member Countries. Blood Test is only required when returning from unlisted third contries
See http://apha.defra.gov.uk/external-operations-admin/library/documents/exports/ET140.pdf
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Did you not read the original link in the first post, which sets out the Government position quite clearly:
The rules for taking your pet to any EU country will change if the UK leaves the EU with no deal and is treated as an unlisted country.
You must get your dog, cat or ferret microchipped and then vaccinated against rabies before it can travel.
However, to allow effective contingency planning in the worst case scenario of the UK not being granted third country status, you’ll need to take the following steps to make sure your pet can travel after 29 March 2019:
You must get your dog, cat or ferret microchipped and then vaccinated against rabies before it can travel. Your pet must have a blood sample taken at least 30 days after the rabies vaccination. You’ll need to talk to your vet about whether you need a rabies vaccination or booster before this test.
Your vet must send the blood sample to an EU-approved blood testing laboratory.
The results of the blood test must show that the vaccination was successful (Your pet must have a rabies antibody level of at least 0.5 IU/ml).
You must wait 3 months from the date the successful blood sample was taken before you travel.
You must take your pet to a Official Veterinarian (OV), no more than 10 days before travel to get a health certificate.
If there’s no deal, pet passports issued in the UK would not be valid for travel to the EU.We don't yet know how we will be leaving the EU - deal or no deal - unlisted third country or not - but there is clear and up to date guidance of what might be required in the event of a no deal - and as I keep saying, pet owners who have to travel over the Brexit date need to make 'just in case' plans if they still wish to travel.
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