Motorhomes and the white peg rule
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Sorry ET, i dont see anywhere in my post where i said that caravan/mh sites where safe, in fact the opposite is probably true, I am an advocate of the 6mtr rule, for one it gives a degree of privacy, but how many sites have you been on where, yes, the 6 mtr rule is enforced but some pitches are a real potential fire hazard, e.g. plastic ground sheets covering most of pitch, plastic wind breaks surrounding a pitch, pitch full of blow up sofas etc, bbq, fire pits, the list is endless, NO caravan/mh sites are not safe, but if we made them 100 pct safe they would be sterile environments that nobody would visit, so it is the users responsibility to make them as safe as possible given the circumstances, and as you cannot put your hand up and say you have seen a site fire i think this is testomony to the fact that in the main caravan/mh users are sensible people.
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The 6mtr gap is to help mitigate the the spread of fire caused by whatever the cause, which has proved itself with the less than would have been damage to adjacent LVs in the two recent fires on sites that i know of with this club do not know what has happened,on other companies sites
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For some reason you both want to perpetuate the myth that this is a huge danger. The report with the Home office statistics was made available. You apparently are not able to read the basis of the report and deliberately state conclusions that are not true and are not stated.
The report item 1A, states:
'1 Primary fires are defined as fires that meet at least one of the following conditions:(a) any fire that occurred in a (non-derelict) building, vehicle or outdoor structure',
They then go on to state that it includes:
'Bicycle, Caravan on tow, Caravan unspecified, Minibus, Motor Home, Multiple vehicles, Other, Tanker, Towing caravan elsewhere and Trailers'.
You choose to ignore the facts and mislead this board.
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Phishing, agree with you whole heartedly, although I have not read all the documentation you refer to, in my opinion this is making mountains out of mole hills, JVB66, not much use having a 6mtr gap, which i agree to if only for privacy, if the gap is full of inflamables e.g. windbreaks, plastic ground sheeting, inflatable sofas, bbq, firepits. JVB66, is your report of 2 recent fires, genuine, if so how dangerous were these fires, and what is the time frame 5 years - 10 years, everybody has a story to tell and all stories get blown up out of all proportion
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Misled or not, I prefer to play safe and like my space. Irrespective of risk, I have no wish to shake hands with my neighbour through the window. Long live the 6m (or more) gap.
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You have not read about Broadway? the other fire was on a cc site,for which i was shown the photo of the remains ,but cannot remember the site but was in quite less than 10yrs,then of course there were the two big fires in less than 5yrs in the two storage compounds
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This post shows little appreciation for fire. Yes a plastic windbreak might burn, and similar plastic inflatable sofas. However although they might burn at a high temperature the heat that they contain is little. Will they spread fire? only if they contact something capable of catching fire easily. They are not going to generate enough heat to cause a car 2 metres away to burst into flame, they might not even damage the car given the amount of heat they would contain.
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Indeed typical club opt out
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As long as they’re in the right position relative to the peg, that’s all that matters. They do not have to reverse in - see the text on the pitching instructions.
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+1
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Is this still discussed? On club sites the separation is 6m. You can agree or disagree with that all you want but if you want to stay on a club site then that's it until the club changes its mind.
It is really only talked about on this site. On the site I'm on the weather, new toilet blocks refurbishment... and a host of things were talked about but the 6/3 meter wasn't one of them.
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Agreed. It is what it is, like it or lump it. 6m it is and 6m it’s likely to stay.
Rule 4
c. To avoid the spread of fire, there must be at least 6 metres spacing between facing walls of adjacent caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents and a minimum clear space of 3 metres between adjoining outfits in any direction.
We can’t pick and choose the rules we wish to follow so there’s no more to say as far as I can see.
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For goodness sake, DD, why do you insist on continually nagging away on here?
Take it up with the club (both clubs) or the Fire Service, or the LAs if you think it’s wrong but you really aren’t going to achieve anything here other than to relieve your own boredom.
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What we believe is irrelevant. The 6m rule has been written by the fire services . The copy I have is from West Yorkshire's fire services and dated 2014.
Why is it blantanly wrong?
And the fire at the club site did appear to contain the fire .
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I’m pleased that made you happy. 👍🏻
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You’re missing the point. Whether it is a rule, regulation or guidance in law, the club has written it into their rules. Therefore, on club sites it is a 'rule'. End of.
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The fire services published guidance in 2014 (how is that old tests?) which the club has made a rule for anyone who wishes to stay at one of it's sites. I think it is perfectly entilede to make any rule it wishes, after all no one is forced to stay if they do not want to abide by a particular rule.
But this one is perfectly reasonable. It is about saving lives. Why you want to guibble about a rule which saves lives is beyond me .
Yes it is obviously going to avoid the spread of fire. Fire spreads through contact and closeness, and other ways. Increase the separation and you avoid the spread.
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Apologies for spelling. Using phone not keyboard.
Can't seem to edit either
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