Motorhomes and the white peg rule

theceilingman
theceilingman Forum Participant Posts: 3
edited October 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Really can't understand why mhs can't get this into their heads about putting the offside to the rear of the mh as all the caravans here at ferry meadows have but that rules seems to not apply to mhs.

The rules are for everyone's safety and this means a fire break needs to be kept.

Of course not all mhs are breaking this rule but loads are.

I understand you might have a driveway awning but you still have the same amount of room as caravans have with awnings and we have to park on the offside of our vans, so please can you do the same.

Rant over now I wait for the backlash.

 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #2

    No backlash but you’re not quite right, TCM. It's either offside rear corner to the peg or nearside front corner and this applies to Caravans and MHs.

    Thus you can have car/caravan/awning, or awning/caravan/car.

    See the text -

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #3

     If at Ferry the backlash will come from the on site staff, as happened twice when we were there two weeks ago on both occasions it was motor caravans that obstructed the fire break one in  nose fist and the other  rear first and were duly "advised" both the wrong side of the pegs

  • InaD
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    edited October 2018 #4

    At the risk of being predictable I'd like to point out that during our last stay on a club site, last week, there were at least 3 caravans which were completely at the wrong side of the marker that I noticed when walking/cycling in and out of the site.  Didn't notice any MH on the wrong side though laughing

    Nothing appeared to be said to them presumably, as they were still like that on our last day, we were there for 4 nights.

    Oh, and FWIW, we never park on the wrong side smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #5

    Nor do we, Ina, but some pitching has to be seen to be believed. I assume wardens let it go as long as the 6m/3m gap is maintained because that’s what matters.

  • InaD
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    edited October 2018 #6

    Possibly TW.  In 1 case I noticed a cone on the adjacent pitch to one of the caravans parked on the wrong side, obviously no idea what the reason was for that, so no problem with spacing there.  But another one was a non-awning pitch, caravan as far on the wrong side as possible, next pitch also non-awning, but not much grass between, that caravan was parked correctly, so to me the 6m gap was compromised.  Let's put it this way: if I'd been on that pitch and someone had parked next to me so close, I'd have been far from happy and would have had a word with my neighbour.  No idea of course who was there first, and we were nowhere near, it's just something that was quite obvious when I went past.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #7

    I sometimes wonder whether the club and its wardens feels all that needs to be done is to inform people of the required spacing (which they do in writing on the site plan) and their reposibility ends there. 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #8

    I think some wardens take the attitude that if it is not affecting others then why "confront" the transgreser, as the flexible approach members want , they will probably have "had a word of advise"wink

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited October 2018 #9

    I've also seen vans and motorhomes pitched completely on the wrong side of the peg and left for at least a week without being repitched. 

    The only time I've said anything was when a unit arrived and started to reverse to the wrong side of the peg on the pitch adjacent to me, leaving much less than 6 metres between our vans.  I politely asked him to move over which he did.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2018 #10

    Much to Margaret's annoyance (she thinks I am making a fuss) I always reverse exactly to the peg as per the instructions. It is simple enough to do, at least with a motorhome. It seems to me that every site I arrive at I am told what the pitching procedure is so there can be no excuse. Now whether something should be done about it depends entirely on whether the miss parked unit is interfering with anyone else, ie being too close. If it is not causing any issues I think wardens will use their common sense and leave it be.

    David

  • lornalou1
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    edited October 2018 #11

    I know the 6m rule is there for fire safety and I pitch my caravan where they want me to but if an awning is fitted them there is no 6m gap, do awning not catch fire if the caravan was ablaze. I never use an awning so why can I not put my van where the awning would have been. If safety was the reason then why not have 6m gap between pitches instead. ( less pitches=less profit )wink

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #12

    Pretty simple really. It is due to the heat (not the temperature) generated from a fire. An awning might burn fiercely and at a high temperature but the actual amount of heat is low.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #13

    It’s 6m between facing walls of units but 3m between awnings/cars. 

    6m between pitches would make some very happy but result in fewer pitches making others very unhappy.

    Profits are rolled back into the club for items such as site development which benefit us all and do not line pockets.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited October 2018 #14

    Given that most motorhomes do not have a car or awning (perhaps a canopy but rarely any “sides”) isn’t there a vast amount of space around the vehicle wherever they pitch?

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #15

    It is not about space necessarily but about separation between habitation units

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2018 #16

    As was posted on another thread, the recommended figure "over there" is 4m. Perhaps the fire risk is less in warmer climates.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #17

    Indeed it is 4m but the absolute is 3m! 

    Unlike the CC clearance from your tow car to neighbour's outfit is 1.8m 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #18

    We have seen (as others probably) the damage caused to the side of the caravan on the next pitch when the motor caravan went up in flames at Broadway ,and both were parked "on their pegs" then you would not query why the clubs fire break should be kept,the 2.3mtr approx less by being the "wrong"side of the peg could have made it far worse 

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2018 #19

    Doesnt HAVE to be REAR to the peg, front OR rear to the peg is the rule.

    Only site i have been told rear in only, was Sandringham ? When asked Warden, said it was a rule from the Sandringham estate ? Evidently its to do with speed of evacuation ??  In case of fire. I can reverse out my motorhome equally as fast off a pitch. But hey ho,  

    This front or rear to the peg, applies to Caravans as well. 

    A good view decides which way around we face BUT

    We also use this choice if the neighbor has a 'foreign handed' motorhome or caravan, so that our doors are not facing each other. 

    Common sense really.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #20

    One thing that some do not appreciate is that on a non awning pitch it is normally acceptable (speak to site staff) to use a roll/wind out canopy if you are on site during the day,(but not at night)wink 

  • mickysf
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    edited October 2018 #21

    Reading under the pitching instructions, thanks tinny, it states that "if you wish to pitch differently (to the diagram) please check with the site staff". May be in some cases of observed alternative pitching folk had done just that and maybe after this the 6 & 3 rule could be maintained.  Unfortunately, I'd bet there are still those folk out there who still just assume and do their own thing which would result in some frustration and confrontation I would guess. Best to talk me thinks!

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #22

    From site plans

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #23

    Cheers, Micky. They certainly could well have sought permission from the warden to park differently.

    I read it that we only need seek permission if we wish to pitch differently from the two ways described in the instructions as it's quite clear that we have the option to pitch front n/s the peg.

    I was going to re-post the instructions but see Easy has done it.👍🏻

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #25

    Thankfully fires are rare DD. Not necessarily comforting to those affected by the event. European pitching recommendations seem to be geared such that if a block of outfits are affected it doesn't spread to the next block. 

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2018 #26

    Were off to Setthorns in a couple of weeks , not a peg in sight ,just sensibly spaced pitches laughing

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2018 #27

    No backlash at all, Ceilngman. You are doing a good job. Keep patrolling and monitoring the sites you stay on. Wear you prefect badge with pride.  

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #29

    If that is what would suit you DD then fairy 'nuff. Personally I prefer not to be cheek by jowl

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #31

    I have not seen anyone on here whinging about a foot off the peg. Parking on the wrong side of the peg, yes. I am often a foot to 18'' off the peg, No awning and I need to open the car door wide whether for me or OH