Brexit 2018 - Travelling to Europe
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My caravan is stored in France so I will be in a quandary if all of the scaremongering takes place. However, I am optimistic that it will be a storm in a teacup.
Spain is concerned that it will lose tourists from Great Britain, and no doubt Brittany Ferries and the Channel Tunnel will lobby behind the scenes as they will be sorely affected by any great reduction in numbers travelling to the Continent.
As far as the Pet Passport is concerned: it is mainly for return to the UK. I have been travelling with my dogs since the inception of Passports for Pets when various bits of paper had to be carried, including a form for the foreign vet to complete for tick and tapeworm treatment. I recall there was also a requirement for dogs to have a fitness to travel form completed by a UK vet before they could enter Spain. Never having taken my dog to Spain I have no idea if this was enforced by the Spanish authorities.
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We rehoused a new dog five weeks ago and he hasn't got a Pet Passport.
After consulting him he decided he'd like one and he's booked in at the Vet on Tuesday for the Passport and the Rabies treatment - so it looks as if we shall be going as normal next year.
Le Portel beach first stop .......
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nothing booked but expect to 'do' the Iberian from January and then Italy/Croatia from May (not Theresa
)will just go with whatever flow is present st the time...
David, will probanly be chatting about that one.....
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In the 70s I worked as a continental coach driver. I did a tour which took me through 7 countries-Uk to Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Germany Switzerland, Austria Italy & return. I was never stopped for long at any border and on the odd occasion I was the guards would get on the coach and just ask everyone to hold up their passports (53 passengers & me) and then say Bon Voyage/Welcome to XXX etc and off we went. There was no EHIC, No ES111, no Freedom of movement, no Euro or anything else. We had to have insurance and if anything happened we used it (I had passengers taken ill/hospitalised/died and still didn't encounter any problems.)
On returning to the UK all the passengers (All British) had to get off the coach & walk through Passport control/Customs with their duty free to be let into the UK. This was the only place I ever got held up.
So the moral of the story after Brexit:
Will Europe still want Tourism-Yes
Will Germany still want us to buy Mercedes & BMWs-Yes
Will France/Italy Spain etc still want us to buy wine-yes
Will Europeans still want to visit Uk-Yes
The list goes on!
I suggest you allow a bit more time at getting back into the UK, Take out Red Pennant Insurance and accept you may not be able to bring as much booze back but nothing much else will change after 29th March. On a positive-Spirits would be cheaper on the return of Duty Free!
It may even get a rally on the pound after the deal is done-which it will be, this is all bravado & brinkmanship but I'll lay 10-1 the Industrialists will exert enough pressure on the politicians and a deal will be done in the end and all the scaremongering will prove groundless.
I'll still be going abroad with the van and don't envisage any problems with Interplod or anyone else for that matter
Mike
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I like your post Bandits!
In 1976 we drove a hired motorhome (Bedford Adventura), shared with two friends, to Czechoslovakia, which was, in those days, behind the Iron Curtain. Once there we met and stayed with my penfriend. Yes, we did have to stop at borders, yes, we did have to exchange currency, yes we had 'quiet conversations' in their flat, with the radio playing to prevent any listening in, but it absolutely did not stop us having a fantastic holiday We found a welcome everywhere we went, and I've no doubt that whatever happens with Brexit we Brits will continue to holiday in Europe, and they will continue to welcome us!
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Wasn’t the German/Austrian delays about terrorism. 15 minute delay at the French/Swiss border to buy vignettes, not a passport in sight.
About 14 thousand EU registered trucks pass daily through non EU Switzerland on a daily basis
Going to start next April’s trip over there in the next few weeks
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The problem could be that having left, or even during talks of leaving, why would/should it be made relatively easy for us by the other member states. Afterall if we are a member of a 'club' and leave you shouldn't expect to continue to reap the benefits of that 'club' or expect the remaining members to spend 'their' time and money helping us. Yes, life may go on and we will take those holidays but it might just be a tad more difficult to do so in several ways and most probably more costly.
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I went into Austria by both car and train 2016 and last year and didn’t experience any delays and certainly didn’t have to show my passport. Yes there were border police on the train leaving Salzburg but they didn’t pay any obvious attention to me. Guess I’m just lucky 🍀
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In 2016, which was our last trip to Europe to Austria,Germany and France, we encountered police checks between countries but both times we were just waved through with hardly any delay other than slowing down. But of course that was due to local difficulties rather than anything likely to be caused by Brexit or not as the case may be. We must continue to play the waiting game on that.
David
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"However we entered Germany from Austria at Bregenz at thje end of Lake Constance without a hitch."
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So, with less than six months to go to brexit day, it seems that we know no more about what our future European touring might be like now than we did a couple of years ago. Without in any way being political, this is an appalling state of affairs
For ourselves, I am planning a trip to the South East of France in May, an area that Jenny has visited, but I have not. The planning of routes, ACSI sites etc is part of the holiday for me, so I will have some of the enjoyment, but the doubtfulness of our being able to actually do it more than takes the shine off.
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Dunclair, your last sentence puzzles me. Do you think that all foreign travel outside the UK is going to be banned, forbidden and prohibited in future ?
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Whilst it might be appalling, surely in the scheme of things it's not worth worrying about, and did anyone honestly (regardless of how they voted) really expect the EU would just say 'Fine, go ahead, leave, tell us the terms you want and we'll sign the paperwork............'.
Just book, take out insurance, and go ahead. I don't think there is any doubt at all that we 'won't be able to actually do it'. Whilst we might have a bit more paperwork, and a few more hoops to jump through, is it honestly going to be a major problem?0 -
Why was my post removed? It wasn't defamatory or political!
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