It's official...we are crazy for campervans
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This is the 'concrete' pitch on the site we moved to after the Haven fiasco. I know which I prefer!
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I buy them because if I want to stay at a C&MC site that is in an area I want to visit and its the closest/convenient site then I stay there but I would like to choose if I want all the bells and whistles or not. Sometimes I do sometimes not but it would be nice to have a choice. I like to belong to the club as it gets me other things as well as club sites plus access to CL's, ferry travel etc. I mix and match like this weekend we stayed at a CL on Friday with no EHU, Saturday was Seacroft as we had the GD with us so it suited and Sunday was a pub stopover again no facilities or EHU (and free if you don't count what we spent in the pub
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but, OP, I do compare like with like as I go to Europe out of season (not end July and August) and similarly don't tour in the UK in high season.
the thing is, there is only one 'high season' on Continental sites but the club seems to get a dozen or so price changes in a year.
i posted some club data a fortnight or so ago where one price rise amounted to a 10p difference from the adjacent prices
I realise some can only get away in peak and then it will be expensive wherever you go....but the club has a knack of making very many weeks 'peak'...far, far more than 'other places'.
so, comparing several non July/Aug dates the club will be far the more expensive.
and you should know that, with relatively cheap short ferry trips it won't take long before that cost is easily spread across the whole break and still the nightly cost is cheaper.
throw in the better sites, nice people and sunshine, win win.
re insurances, we have an annual worldwide multi trip policy which caters for all of our holidays, we also have European wide rescue on all our vehicles which, while obviously a bit more than uk ones, wouldn't even make me think about the extra.
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well, it looks very like the place we used a couple of years back
this is the aerial view from googlemaps....looks exactly like the photo I posted.
also is an aeriel view of the other shower block....looks the same to me also....
both blocks are of the same design as in my original picture.
not quite sure where you were looking..
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it's of no interest to me....
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I got the impression you didn't want to continue the diversion into having a "pop at other providers" but anyway .....we're back down in Cornwall next week so if we walk past those pitches/shower block I'll take current pictures so you can see what they are like now (not publicity/Google pictures). I'll also try to get some quotes for next year's peak season prices (the sky high ones which subsidise those special £6.50 deals!)
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Not within the club though!!!
Its rather like asking John Lewis if they stock a certain item and them saying no but Debenhams do why not go there, rather than lose a sale if there is demand they may want to stock it instead and before you say anything yes they would have to gauge demand same as the club has to gauge demand for having glamping pods and different pitch types. Presumably they are/will look at alternative pitches for MH's with fewer facilities and smaller pitches, after all if you can get 6 MH pitches on the same footprint as 3 normal pitches or even the LNA or Carpark its making more dosh is it not?
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Comparing a site (was it France) in mainland Europe with one in the UK is not comparing like with like by any stretch of the imagination.
For several years up until 15 years I often went off at the drop of a hat to Europe with a friend for 4 or 5 days. If we are taking about 'Spontaneity being the key' I doubt that there are a great percentage who spontaneously travel into Europe with a campervan for a weekend break at the drop of a hat and find that cheaper than a CC site.
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If you go in to JL for a vacuum cleaner and their cheapest is £100 and you say 'I only want to pay £30' they may well suggest ASDA George.
after all if you can get 6 MH pitches on the same footprint as 3 normal pitches
But you can't! Normal pitch is approx 3m wide to allow for a caravan or motorhome with 6m clearance (which includes room for a car and an awning within the clearances, a pitch just 3m wide for a MH will still be 6m clearance and the instead of using 12m would probably use 9m.
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It looks as if the marketing people in another similar industry have done a survey and come up with a similar result - "Small Rocks (or whatever the current cool/hip/dandy word might be)"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45940657
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....but I wasn't talking about comparing one day against one day....
you can't do that if ypu include lengthy travel.....even the length of the U.K....
but for 'touring' as we do, we don't find spending weeks away to be more expensive than using (say, club) sites in the uk.
however, the spontenaiety of using a campervan here isn't helped by the fact most folk feel they have to book and this leads to booked sites, even if some then cancel...
the thing that makes touring easy in other places is the fact that you don't book, plans are made on the morning of departure and the particular morning may not be the one you had in mind in the first place.
the quick stop, max stay pitches 'might' work best if they were (say) only bookable on the day (when folk have decided which way they might travel) or even not bookable at all...
i shall be travelling to western Portugal in a few weeks time, I will,be staying on this very type of pitch across France and central Spain but, despite some stops only having a few places, I won't be booking anything....you can't book anyway...
if there's no room I'll go onto the next one or find somewhere else.
if all club sites had three or four of these, the same process could be employed there.....full up, no problem, on to the next club site..
for winter touring, where occupancy levels are down, this seems to me to be a great way of getting about.....what MH are designed for...
...and back to the original premise.....more and more MH/campervans, more and more impromtu touring and changing requirements.
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If you only want to sleep for a few hours, why not?
Those of us used to small vans won’t find it a problem.
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if all club sites had three or four of these, the same process could be employed there....
Sounds great - except there just physically is not that level of overprovision of pitches in Great Britain. [I think the recent boom in campervan sales has resulted in all the spaces being filled up.]
As to "go to another provider" I am a member of CC (and C&CC as well) so that I know that I will get facilities of a consistent high standard without the need for a prior inspection. I do not want to be spending each morning of my holiday spontaneously looking at site reviews to find an acceptable level of quality at a substitute site.
.full up, no problem, on to the next club site..
Which at 50 to 60 miles means a couple of hours to find out if there is a space, and even if there is we will not be in the area we spontaniously wanted to be.
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I thought that the CL/CS network and the majority of sites "off peak" at this time of year plus "brit stops?" and commercial sites would more than cater for the needs of "pop ins" for a couple of days in the uk without the need for booking
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you can do what you like, I've said I don't do peak at home or away, my comparisons are what I pay...althpugh we have digressed, I will indulge you...
the club's prices are not just confined to a six week summer peak, they (like other providers here) like to wring each last 10p from its customers.
yes, sites can be expensive over there, but only for a short burst, not the drawn out multi peaks we put up with here.
and, anyway, I was only responding to Oneputt who suggested I wasn't comparing like with like....which I was.
re Perran....we've used an 'eco' shower block over two years ago, the Google pictures match the photo I posted....so that's three different 'sources' of info on these things.
Im sorry you think there's some sort of conspiracy going on between myself, Haven and Mr Google (you can easily check the aerial view) and I hope you have a lovely time with your investigations....
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..but like elsewhere, there are other options....even a full priced CC pitch
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It is really is nonsense comparing pitches prices... over there. So pointless
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have to agree fully. The standard of club sites is one of the reasons they are so popular.
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You never answer answer my questions davie, what do you often quote? the days of answering a teacher's question is long gone for you
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From what I see I accept that the use of leisure time/vehicles is changing especially noticeable in England at week-ends.
Providing any new ‘item’ for sale I feel has to be researched and proven on paper at least, in order to be able to estimate profit (if any) to be made from that new ‘item’ without any detriment to the rest of what the seller is offering for sale.
I personally I cannot see the non-facility/short stay type of pitch being a financially viable way forward for the club as it would have to be ‘sold’ at a lower price than the club’s other pitches.
I can offer no further contribution to this thread/discussion so
Good luck to all contributing to this OP Campervan Infographic
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Is there any need to be rude about club officials and fellow members?
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Thank you for "indulging" me, BB, rather patronising, n'est ce pas?
The point I was making, BB, was that your photos are out of date. The pitches and shower block may have looked like that when first opened but they definitely do not now. Like all sites and buildings they are showing signs of wear and tear. As for cost, you were the one who brought that up in the first place - I just tried to point out for anyone not in the know how they can afford to make those offers available.
No, I've no doubt that no conspiracy exists, you were stating what you saw 2 years ago, I was saving what we saw a couple of weeks ago. I'm sorry if my post upset you - your reply seems a little tetchy - but there we are.
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