Charging electric vehicles on club pitches

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  • Metheven
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    edited October 2018 #92

    Why the difference between mobility scooter and plug in car? Yes one is for disability and the other for business/leisure but both give the freedom for going from A to B.

    Either charge (money) for all or for none.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #93

    I noticed at a P/boro shopping centre there have been some EV hookups installed at a standard £4 per plug in 

  • Oscarmax
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    edited October 2018 #94

    May I make a suggestion which may please the majority.

    In the next few years there will be more electric vehicles on site,

    (a) all electric and plug in hybrid be registered with the caravan club,

    (b) if you wish to charge you vehicle on site you have to get a ticket which has to be displayed on site , the ticket to have a time and date.

    (c) different coloured  tickets i.e red for a full electric and yellow for a plug in hybrid with the appropriate charge, some companies are charging £0.09 + vat kWh, say £2.00 hybrid /£4.00 electric.

    (d) the appropriate ticket to be displayed when the vehicle is being charged, then the wardens can monitor the system and fellow caravan's can report any freeloaders,

    (e) misuse of the system more than 2/3 time suspension of membership.

    Does that sound reasonable.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #95

    I strongly disagree. Whilst the electricity is included in pitch fee I would not wish to create complications for anybody whose disability necessitates the complications of using a mobility scooter on holiday. 

    If, as an interim provision, CC banned charging cars on pitch and provided charging points elsewhere should the mobility vehicles also be charged elsewhere? 

  • Oscarmax
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    edited October 2018 #96

    No they have to pay the same

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #97

    so why as you posted:

    I strongly be live if you are going to charge an electric vehicle (except my mobility scooter) you should pay the fair market cost,

  • Randomcamper
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    edited October 2018 #98

    And say a green ticket for those that want to use awning heaters.......

    On second thoughts maybe green is not the correct colour.....smile

    And to prevent people cheating when the warden has gone to bed, we could recruit more wardens so that they can have 24 hour patrols to ensure compliance.........

    All seems a good idea to me........wink

    PD will be along in a minute to remind us that metering individual pitches is the way forward........!

    And compared to this idea he is correct.......

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #99

    no, not really. For practical reasons mainly. Each bollard would then have to have it's own meter to check how much electricity is being used. Who would pay for that?

    Charge is in price or amps btw? 

    I don't think that fellow campers want to check up and report on others and wardens have better things to do than wander round (like Blakey on the buses, or Hodges - put that charger out) checking pitches.

    There is an all inclusive fee which includes electricity. Up to 16A, and campers can use that as they see fit with that 16A, an awning heater, hair dryers, tv, chargers.... or even a EV. It really doesn't matter what the electricity is used on?

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #100

    I have noted recently that more and more public car parks are charging blue badge holders (cash strapped councils?)which i cannot see a problem withundecidedsurprised 

    But as for charging mobility scooters on you pitch who would know as can the batteries be removed?

     

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2018 #101

    I agree with ET. Electricity is factored into pitch fees. There is no need to over complicate things since a maximum amount can be used for whatever reason within the 16A. I have come round to agreeing though that a non EHU option should be available and certainly prefer that option to metered supply, even though we'd probably benefit as very low users of electricity.

    Anyway, with all the different coloured pegs the club is going to need to invent some new colours if we're going to have coloured tickets as well! wink

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #102

    At least many car parks that levy a charge on disabled parking also give a gratis additional hour in addition to the time paid for - presumably to allow for the fact that some make slower progress.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #103

    Oscar’s scheme will also need compliance with the Secondary Supplier Agreement if electricity is to be sold by the unit as it can only be re-sold for the same price as the club pays. 

    Wow, what a wonderfully simple system!😂😂😂😂

  • Oscarmax
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    edited October 2018 #104

    Buts it only a suggestion do you have a suggestion or compromise to suit all members, the club has already made their views clear at present, in the near future there will be an increase of electric vehicles on site.

     

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2018 #105

    If and when it becomes a problem, then metering has to be the way to go with all forms of batery transport paying for the leccy, obviously pitch fee reduction would be needed.

    Gawd, I sound like 'PD' now.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #106

    Nope, it’s not my job to solve the issue when people in the club have far more detail and resources to work with than you or I. 

    That’s what we pay them for and, if we don’t like the end result, we stop paying em. 

  • Oscarmax
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    edited October 2018 #107

    Better to discuss it and get it out in the open, at least the club can see the members views.

    Everyone has there own views and we should respect  that.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #108

    but do you think that what we are saying here is a representative sample (it certainly is not in terms of numbers) of what members want or think?

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2018 #109

    Was my post disrespectful?

    I am certain the Club are aware and irrespective of the few views on here, they will make a decision. If we don't like it we have an option open to us all.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #110

    has to be a +1

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2018 #111

    I wont be worrying how the club will "sort" the leccy use ,as I wont have an electric car ,and i'm not bovvered what other members plug in to EHUcool 

  • Oscarmax
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    edited October 2018 #112

    Far from it, like I said everyone has there own views and we should respect that.

  • trellis
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    edited October 2018 #113

    Completely off thread,even the club's IT system is starting to stir it.On page 11 Metheven mentioned PD ,however when Oscarmax re-quoted the post PD has become DD ! . The dark arts are at work .😂😂

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #114

    Nah, that was just an edit and unfortunate timing. No dark arts here.👻😆

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2018 #115

    Yes embarassed, it was as Tw mentioned. I realised by re-reading a previous post that I may have misquoted a member, so I edited my post but not before it was quoted afterwards in its original form.

    Everythings good ....... I think ....... if I eventually got it right innocent

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #117

    well yes in principal but look what happened when the club got an outside provider AirAngel to do its wifi?  

    I can imagine if the system doesn't run properly it will be the club who gets the flak? 

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #120

    But then a lot of work on sites ,that in the past was carried out by the wardens is now contracted to outside suppliers,hence the "problems some find on sites with O,O,O equipment waiting for enough jobs to make it "viable?" to call the "contractor"undecidedsurprised

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