Brexit 2018 - Travelling to Europe

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  • ValDa
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    edited September 2018 #62

    I worked in the NHS at the time of the 'Millenium Bug', running a computer based 'access to all medical records' system (long before the debacle which was NPFiT) - and had to be in work from 9.00 pm on 31/12/1999 until 9.00 am on 01/01/2000.  Believe me if you worked in IT  it wasn't a 'Media threat' but the possibility of an actual meltdown.  Fortunately our in-house designed software involved only a few lines of  new 'code' to make sure systems worked - and they did............... so a few hours after midnight,  when everyone could still get access, we were all allowed to go off shift.

    But to be fair, Brexit is a much bigger issue - and needs bigger brains to sort out a solution!

  • Philnffc
    Philnffc Forum Participant Posts: 317
    edited September 2018 #63

    Hi

    Most people on here know we live in Spain and I see a lot of comments saying nothing as changed and nothing will change but for most ex-pats and this is not a moan but at the moment I'm 150 down on my pension since Brexit and the average seems to be about 225 for most ex-pats I speak too. Before anyone  makes the comment of market fluctuations which I agree dose happen occasionally but this was self inflicted.

    Anyway enjoy your weekend while we make do with our measly  pension.

    Phil

    P.S Banks here say they may not recognise British Debit/Credit cards after Brexit, no mention in the MSM back in the UK. lol

  • iansoady
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    edited September 2018 #64

    What Val says is absolutely true. One of my colleagues was part of the team co-ordinating the process across the NHS from the centre and I saw just how much effort went into it. Every single system and device had to be checked: some needed to be scrapped as they couldn't be modified (supplier gone out of business etc), some could be updated, some were OK.

    He took early retirement soon after as the effort and responsibility ground him down so much.

    As regards Brexit, it's not brains that are needed just a recognition that it's the most self destructive thing this country has ever engaged in.

  • IanTG
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    edited September 2018 #65

    Whilst I am not (at this point in time) either for or against Brexit, surely all people can judge on is the journey towards Brexit. The actual effects of Brexit will not be apparent for some time, years I would say.

    thats no different to when we joined EU - many of the so called positive or negative aspects only emerged years afterwards.

    exactly the same for its effect on travelers heading forEurope - the concrete fact is - there are no facts! They will only emerge later. 

    Why expend energy worrying?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited September 2018 #66

    I thought the cards carried the weight & guarantees from Visa/Amex/MasterCard etc, they are international not purely British🤔

  • DJG
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    edited September 2018 #67

    More good news!!

    As so many people are worried about going abroad this Spring it will mean less queues at the ports and more choice in campsites popular with Brits. Also there might be  price reductions, as so many less, will be travelling on the ferries/tunnel.

    Here's hoping.

  • LeTouriste
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    edited October 2018 #68

    We are still planning our annual trip to France, and hope to do so again in 2019.  But I do fear some backlash from the tit-for-tat behaviour on both sides. Theresa May, in supposedly trying to get a deal with the EU, could have already started problems by the decision to change the UK passports back to blue.  It smacks of schoolyard stupidity, is totally unnecessary, and is a first step to further bureaucratic trivia.

    Severe customs allowances are almost certain to return - the bullying do-gooders with nothing better to do than lobby the government with arguments "for our better welfare" will see to that!

    I have always hoped that Brexit would collapse before March 2019, but news broadcasts seem the indicate exit regardless.

    Camping holidays in the UK are already flooded by demand at peak periods, and those staying in the UK can expect both private campsites and the Clubs to take advantage of that demand in the form of artificial price increases.  Our current caravan is in its 7th year and we have already decided that it will not be replaced with a newer one - its eventual demise will coincide with our departure from caravanning.

  • paul56
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    edited October 2018 #69

    We were lucky enough to spent 3 weeks in France in June (using rented gites/hotels) and another 3 weeks in September using the caravan and I was staggered (especially in the September holiday) at just how many GB plates we saw. All I can gather from this is that no-one seems unduly worried at the mo - or they are getting their fix before its too late! As for me, not worrying and will see how it goes. I suspect our EU friends would miss the vast amount of euros that must be generated if things were made difficult and more people did holiday at home.

  • GVD
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    edited October 2018 #70

    Quote...I suspect our EU friends would miss the vast amount of euros that must be generated if things were made difficult and more people did holiday at home.

    Totally agree with above. We spent 8 weeks in France, in various areas, using municipal sites to "singing and dancing sites", and the amount of British we saw, might as well stayed at home cool

    have already booked ferry for next year..looking forward. 

  • C Williams
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    edited October 2018 #71

    As one of the many GB plates you may have seen, I can assure you we'll be back next year. I think by nature caravanners/m'homers are more intrepid than the average traveller. We have to be prepared for all sorts of hiccups and cope with most of them with a smile (if sometimes a rueful smile). We'll all manage one way or another, determined to continue to enjoy all that's different (not always better!), over there. 😛

  • GTP
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    edited October 2018 #72

    Am I travelling to Europe next year ? Of course I am..and have already booked our ferry and site to attend the 75th Anniversary of the 'D' landings..which, according to the 'D' web site..will see some 40 plus Dakotas fly over the beaches, plus parachute drops by UK and US 82nd and 101 Airborne. Apparently a new memorial has been funded, from proceeds of the Libor bank scandal, to be installed somewhere...

    Interestingly...from all available photos... I cannot see any GB stickers on any the vehicles that landed at Normandie...

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2018 #73

    Just back from my trip to Germany and had to negotiate the already hard border into Holland and again to exit Holland then immigration and customs in the UK so hard border would be nothing new😴

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2018 #75

    David, the last 2 or 3 times we've arrived back at Hull we've been sat for up to an hour waiting to clear customs.

    Travelling back this time through Caen, will be interesting to see if there is still problems there.

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  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2018 #77

    Fortunately I was first off the ferry in Harwich and 10 minutes later I was filling up with diesel at Morrison as I departed the MH that was behind me on the ferry pulled in to the garage. 

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2018 #78

    For some folk saying that the Millenium bug DID effect them, Some, mainly Goverment contractors like Thomas Delarue, Rolls Royce, ICI  were using some VERY old equipment from the late 50s early 60s, using Punch Card programming and the like,  these couldnt be updated (there were no spares available anyway) being kept alive by cannibalising other old machines.So these we took the decision to stop supporting , citing 'The Millenium Bug' . That was IBM anyway.

     

  • Lew Jack
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    edited October 2018 #79

    If only Dunclair, the original poster had left out paras 2 & 3 of that original post, perhaps all subsequent posts may have have remained politically neutral. However, there is nothing like a 'good rant' as a means of letting off steam but surely folks, all those political comments have a place elsewhere?

    The original post ended by asking, "will our travelling habits change following Brexit?"

    I have my own thoughts about whether or not leaving the EU will be good or bad for us Brits and believe me, so too will those who live within the EU. But I do not believe this forum is the correct place to air our political views. Let us keep to the point - will your travel habits change?

    My wife and I intend to travel with our caravan to France in May via Hull/Zeebrugge come what may. We will return after a period of 6 or 7 weeks and if I need to have an International Driving Permit, I will get one. The same will apply for any other documentation/permits etc.

    I hate queueing with a vengeance but nothing, I repeat, nothing will stop us travelling post Brexit to France.  Kindest regards to all.

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2018 #81

    There is to be a two year implementation / transition phase until 2021. 

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2018 #82

    Or even longer....

  • Kennine
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    edited October 2018 #83

    That might be a blessing in disguise.. The CMC can easily recruit fresh site-staff  Ones who would uphold the CMC's on-site rules and insist that they are adhered to by every customer

    winkwinkwink 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #84

    “Out” is no longer a political standpoint but a fact waiting to happen. Until it does, many of the points raised in this thread can’t be answered. I consider that’s what it’s all about and it may affect people who travel abroad even if they don’t take an LV. 

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2018 #85

    I will be doing the same as in previous years, setting off for the tunnel late April. I might have to do some late planning or changes if Brexit dictates at the end of March but am still looking forward to it, once out of the UK it will be business as usual. Money/exchange rate does not bother me and our enjoyment habits will not change one little bit.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2018 #86

    I will be touring europe starting this April probably for 3 months, my only concern is perhaps getting the dog back into the country, but he is good at hiding under the bed cool

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2018 #87

    cant understand why my content has been removed when the original post which is equal in political content as mine remains, very strange forum rules, or is it just the views of 1 person that decided what stays & what remains, and without explanation. Looks like TTDA has been a naughty boy also.

    Moderator Comment - The post that was Deleted User had nothing to do with the original topic which is asking what the effect of Brexit would have on touring in Europe. Whilst the discussion stays on that subject it will remain open. However if it continues to go off topic it will be closed completely.

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2018 #89

    Apologies. I hadn't realised suggesting folks don't believe all they hear and read was political, but sorry if it appears so.smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #90

    sealed

  • Tigi
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    edited October 2018 #91

    We`ve booked to go to Spain at the end of April can`t say I`m concerned if there is s delay so be it.