Dogs and Touring
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is there a problem with dogs on club sites? Personally I have never been upset, inconvenienced by any at all.
It would appear though that for some members there is a limit and then after that the very number of dogs is the problem, not what they do but just by being there?
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was that on a club site PD?
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"I have my own ideas of why people allow thier dogs to inconvenience others and am certain these people will behave in the same way charged or not."
Quite so, in which case the argument for charging (other than purely to control numbers for those who wish to do so for whatever reason) goes out of the window!
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David, we have varying opinions as to what causes people to act irresponsibly where their dogs are concerned. We are all entitled to hold those opinions but none can be classed as undeniable or strange because you and I simply have no way of knowing the true facts behind the matter.
Speculation is largely the name of the game here.
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I'm glad you're using club sites PD
Sorry off site as in not belonging to the club? also what were you doing there?
Post edit - in the dog walk I mean
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Personally I think that on sites where a dog walk is provided it would be quite reasonable to charge as the land, fences, hedges etc requires some maintenance and emptying of bins. I would see no reason why any charge should be more than about 25p per dog though.
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well to be honest it might make me believe the site actually existed? Sorry but you did ask and you have been known in the past for bending the facts? Metered electricity on club sites springs to mind.
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David - you seem to be letting your personal antipathy to dogs cloud the issue here. The question is whether or not dogs cause a significant problem on club sites and, if so, would charging do anything to solve that perceived problem. You have yourself said that you doubt charging would do anything to change behaviour of owners. But can I just ask, when was the last time you stayed on a UK site that charged for dogs? I'm asking this because, as I suggested earlier there could be other reasons than charging to explain why there are few dogs on the sites you choose to use.
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UK CAMC site... every overseas site
But once gain you are comparing one county with another, it does not work with arrivals times, costs.... whatever, why should it work with dogs?
Yes there are fewer dogs over there either on sites or in homes but so what? we are discussing sites in the UK. Perhaps if you compared club sites with non club sites that might have value, but to compare other countries does not.
Again are you are letting you dislike of dogs cloud your reason?
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not based on dog weight? After a heavier dog will wear out the dog walk quicker? and also fill bins quicker? Perhaps a set of scales in reception? or height chart
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We have stayed at two commercial sites this year, Waverley Park and South Lytchett Manor and both charge for dogs although for the latter they are free in saver season but dogs are by arrangement. I have no idea what that means. I also notice that Morris Leisure charge for dogs so perhaps not as unusual as some think? Sites in Europe have always been keener to charge extra for dogs but as many people use discount schemes like ACSI it probably still works out at a similar price or cheaper than a Club site in the low season where you don't pay for dogs. Some sites in Europe don't allow dogs in the peak season. These are just facts of life for dog owners and I am sure they factor such restrictions into their calculation where and what sites they stay on. Why its such a matter for debate I have no idea?
David
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Ok then, 25p as you suggest, two for the price of one?
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so another perk for club members? excellent. Of course if you don't like it...
But many non dog owners seem Ok with it
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David, I wouldn’t dream of arguing your point that the ratio of dogs to humans is less on European sites or that those sites charge for dogs.
However your earlier 'undeniable fact' was-
"What I am pointing out is the undeniable fact that sites that charge have less dogs."
It's quite a leap from the former to arrive at the latter as the former could be due to any number of reasons.
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I think it is undeniable that site which don't charge act as a magnet for dog owners. If every site charged for dogs I guess campers would equally be lured by those with those charging the least. if the Club were to charge, (unlikely I think) they would have to balance out any increase in revenue against losses elsewhere, e.g. membership? Of course because sites allegedly are so popular would any downturn actually happen?
peedee
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In reply to Peedee, I will also repeat, that it's undeniable dogs can't read therefore it is better to target the dog owners who ignore all rules, polite requests and good behaviour demonstrations by others. Charging won't make the slightest difference to this group. They don't bother on site or off site at home about what other people think they should do. They appear not to notice the efforts of others to conform to certain standards because they have no standards, they just don't care.
Rather than be worried or disturbed by them my own reaction is to ignore it unless it happens on my pitch and then I would object strongly in polite terms and I will put the details in a review. Will it make a difference, who knows? You are up against Joe Public just as much on sites as you are on the streets.
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"I think it is undeniable that site which don't charge act as a magnet for dog owners."
I think it is deniable, PD. It’s the overall cost and whether it’s seen as value for money that matters to most folk, in my view.
However, as I said earlier, it’s speculation and we can’t prove anything so why don't we simply bear all these points in mind and get on with enjoying sites whether it be with or without the companionship of man's best friend?
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I think it is undeniable that site which don't charge act as a magnet for dog owners.
That is codswallop in my opinion. When moving from site to site touring 'overthere', we dig out the ACSI and other books for next location, acceptance of one dog irrespective of charge or not, walks and cyclepaths from/near to site, on site restaurant in that order mostly.
A charge for our dog 'overthere' or here has never stopped us as yet, if it is where we want to be.
Agree with 'moulesy', subject is not as Rowena intended but expected a downturn.
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