Motorhomes & grey waste
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Au Contraire......
J2 is making the point that the waste point was too close to the tap meaning it only accommodated a proportion of van...
this is an isuue with the waste point design, not the design of his van.
our van also has the water I let on the uk nearside but the dump pipe exits on the offside.
a central (and/or sloping lie) waste point accommodates any waste design.
a hose pipe accommodates a water inlet on either side...
with decent MHSP design we can fill and empty at the same time without moving the van...
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a bit too simple, DD
hope you're both having a good time...
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The best MH service point we have experienced is at the Camping Club site at Charmouth, it is a franchised site. Big concrete sloping MH point a choice of taps along the fence, the concrete takes all grey waste into the drain, and as a bonus there is a black waste manhole for any big RVs.. It really isn't hard to get it right to accommodate any MH layout..
Yes its just to please an ever increasing number of MH's needs, but there again I have no need for a dog walk, I have no need for a playground, we never use WiFi, we never use the laundry and seldom use the dish wash facilities either, but I know others do, and I imagine the club needs to do all these things well in order to attract and retain customers in the long term whatever their preferences.
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The problem on most CC sites is that the waste area is not separated greatly from site tracks/roads and I suspect that the slopes required to ensure that any food waste within the grey water actually washes down the grid rather than depositing on the concrete area are not practical to provide.
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the STD CC CCEP point has hole with sloping sides to make life easier for those using it....you wouldn't expect all members to rely on pinpoint accuracy....
the provided tap/hose ensures it's clean for the next person.
continental MHSPs are a slightly bigger version of this, just making life as easy as possible with good design and implementation.
however, as DK mentioned upthread, CC have made their decision, this is the 'design' they will be implementing despite many users of continental versions knowing that they could have been much better at little/no extra cost
perhaps the 'sites' rae M would like to comment?
ill report my post and ask the question.
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Going back to the OP I think we all agree that many MWP's are not fit for purpose. The Club is addressing this by the introduction of open grill waste water disposal points. Many of us would like progress to be a bit quicker but we can't have everything in life. Personally I feel the new design of waste point is excellent and I am sure the Club have given consideration for both the practicality and aesthetics. I think some of the waste points show in pictures posted in this thread might be fine in a car park like environment found on Aires but would look totally out of place on many Club sites.
David
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We used the MHSP at Wirral CP this morning - the one I posted a pic of earlier. Another drawback came to light when we couldn’t negotiate the tight turn to get into the MHSP. No problem, it just meant driving the wrong way against the one way system. 😳
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"I think some of the waste points show in pictures posted in this thread might be fine in a car park like environment found on Aires but would look totally out of place on many Club sites."
Is not one of the criticisms of club sites that they look like car parks?
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We encountered similar on several club sites. Often you can't get out of the road whilst using them so cause a hold up, we've had vans take to the grass/pitches if vacant because they can't wait!
The name change hasn't really made the sites more moho friendly even with the upgrades they've done 😉. My OH will tell you all about what he's learnt regarding spoiling the ship for a ha'porth of tar 😂. Why pay thousands and penny pinch for a hundred when a very little more will make a proper pucker job of it and it needed be touched again for years. Overall saving 😂😂😂
We were on the others club site at St Neots, MHSP in it's own layby well off the road, not sufficient width to get over the grating by a few inches because of the position of the water supply! Unable to turnaround on the site road and there was an exit barrier meaning you couldn't drive the wrong way. But slight slope so we emptied out with a little spillage as possible but couldn't rinse down as no hose provided - our hose dried and away as moho going back into storage within an hour.
Sometimes there's a slope - but it doesn't guide the liquid into the drain! I wonder who signs the work off? Wouldn't get away with it if it were me 😉. Clear brief, job done to brief spec, tested and happy to pay a fair price if it fulfils.
An aside our local Lidl and Farm Foods share a car park and areas outside their shops, built within the last 20 years at the most. Trolleys parked outside each shop but this whole area slopes down to the kerb for the car park. I have yet to see anyone manage, as you should pushing the trolley from behind, to push their trolley to the car without another person guiding at the front or walking crablike. And we live in a fairly felt county! So the club isn't alone.
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We stayed on the recently refurbished Tewkesbury Club site for one night on our way back from Devon. New MH point, on a one way road, nice full width grill. As the road slopes to the left hand side though, and as our waste outlet is on the right hand side, we will always leave perhaps a gallon or so of waste water in the tank. Shoddy planning ? Shoddy workmanship ? Not understanding that not all MHs have a waste outlet on the left ? Who knows, but for a brand new job it was poor.
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perhaps it's the aesthetics that are important, not the functionality?
i don't think most that are familiar with decent MHSPs are looking for the Club to provide something that is photogenic, merely that it delivers what it should.
the case for defense seems to have moved into the world of 'form over function'....
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yes, obvious to all that it was a rainwater drain upgrade...
whats not obvious is why the MHSP wasn't updated at the same time with the two only being a yard apart
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not scheduled at all it seems....no upgrade on the MHSP at Minehead as yet.....
still, can't expect the left hand to talk to the right, can we?
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