Interesting petition
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The economy pitches that I have seen are there largely by chance. They are not necessarily small though. The economy is gained by not having electricity and most that I have noted are either on grass or tarmac. There were some at Much Wenlock in an area of the site that was often closed off in wet weather and where presumably the cost of installing electricity was not justified.
If grass and non-EHU is wanted I think that the CCC have the edge on that both on site and on their THS
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Those don't relate to Aires, as they can be used by everybody. The CAMC developing and running Aire like facilities that only cater for MH's, would not be particularly inclusive. Any input from the CAMC should be purely in an advisory capacity, in my opinion.
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Returning to the matter of the petition itself, 9 days on and for the last 4 days the number of signatures has hovered around the 2000 mark. Of course, no way of knowing how many of those are club members but it's hardly indicative of an overwhelming demand and certainly not a basis on which the club should be investing vast (or even moderate) amounts of money (IMHO).
More constructive for this apparently limited demand would be for all the clubs to lobby together for such provision - no need to get involved in owning or managing them.
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It is not in the Clubs' interests to e encourage motorhomes to go elsewhere, better to attract them to owned sites.
peedee
P.s. by my reckoning there are just as many motorhome owners out there who are not members of the Club as there are members.
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as well as the other advantages of THS sites I listed, they are open to caravans and MHs alike and also, because they are 'pop-up' in duration (not permanent sites) they don't need planning as a full site....
in the absense of aires in the uk, I actually think these are 'better' than economy pitches in that they are often sites far closer to towns than a typical permanent campsite....great for just dropping in to a town for a visit for one or two nights without having to drive.
OTOH, many tour from one THS to another giving a summer's worth of cheap, no booking, easy access camping.
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Why do a I get the feeling that this is the modern day equivalent of Oliver Twist? Instead of the food bowl it's a motorhome being held out saying "Please I demand more"!
The club is already spending a small fortune on the provision of new MHSP, hard standing, service pitches.
Sorry but we are all members of the same club. There would soon be a massive outcry if caravaners demanded caravan only facilities.
I'll get my tin hat
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In all fairness, Dave, I think virtually all the motorhomers on here, along with the caravanners have accepted the futility of the petition as it stands. But you're right that the club is spending money (arguably not enough) and improving facilities (arguably not quickly enough) for motorhomers on its sites.
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No need for the hat, Dave. I, for one agree with you. All the way through this thread, some of us have been pointing out the divisive nature of the subject of the thread.
To have grated MHSPs will be very nice and an improvement on the current ones but I can manage quite well without any.
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well, that's intersting PD, I also thought the potential provision was for less....not more...
just a tap, a CCEP, and a grey waste.....but even these wouldn't be needed on every 'aire type' provision.
we will be here on this THS for 5/6 days and won't need additional fresh water or waste provision despite showering in the van....unlike caravans...
I don't think the OP is divisive in the least, it's a request (to the wrong place, granted) for a 'camping lite' provision to cater for a changing membership demographic that's more appropriate to, the newly embraced, MH membership. and the different type of touring many of them enjoy.
RE Daves post, pehaps there a hint of Animal Farm (well, he mentioned Oliver Twist
) in that possibly caravaners are 'more equal' than MHers as they tend to favour serviced pitches, showers, EHU etc, much of these are not required by MH passing through and none of which are part of any 'aire' provision irrespective of who the supplier might be....1 -
"RE Daves post, pehaps there a hint of Animal Farm (well, he mentioned Oliver Twist
) in that possibly caravaners are 'more equal' than MHers as they tend to favour serviced pitches, showers, EHU etc,"BB - that's not the evidence I saw on our two stays at club sites with serviced pitches this year. At both Chatsworth and more so at Cirencester I'd say numbers on the serviced pitches were about equal. Of course, all any of us can do is speak for ourselves - as a caravanner I definitely don't want a serviced pitch (too tight!
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"RE Daves post, perhaps there a hint of Animal Farm (well, he mentioned Oliver Twistwink) in that possibly caravaners are 'more equal' than MHers as they tend to favour serviced pitches, showers, EHU etc, much of these are not required by MH passing through and none of which are part of any 'aire' provision irrespective of who the supplier might be."
Funny that BB, as on the few CC sites that we've used recently the serviced pitches have been as often as not occupied by M/S as they have by caravans. So it's obviously not "more equal" for caravaners as you are trying to make out.
Edit. Sorry M I see that we are of the same opinion, I was just slower at expressing it than you.
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me too.....probably....
..but really there's just no requirement if staying for 10days or less on a club site with showers....
in the above case, i wont fill again till the next destination so just no point....
ok, I'll pull the dump lever on the way out.....but could just as easily do it at the next site's MHSP while filling....
to add around £30 to a week's stay is certainly an extra incentive to leave the SP to someone else...
however, I wonder how many of those who use them, caravans or MH, do so as they see it as a cert way of being on a HS.....and then use the SP facilities as they are there....?
of course, we'll never know as the club won't ask for sure....nice little earner if you ask me....or even if you don't
perhaps some MH owners don't have the experience or confidence to understand how long their tank lasts?
it may be that some are there a week, keep the tank brimmed on the SP (when not actually needed) and then dump the lot when they get home or at the MHSP on the way out......
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JVB, youre confusing me with your mates......I pull the lever when over the MHSP drain.....provided I can lift it...
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I quite like serviced pitches, in fact just booked another site with them. I also know how long my water lasts. It's not essential but just a little luxury.
David
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I'm not sure why caravanners choose them either PD, particularly on sites which have full facilities anyway but that's just down to their personal choice.
But the, admittedly, limited evidence I have would suggest that MHs are just as likely to be on them as caravans, whether or not they use them as intended.
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On our recent 9 night stay at Bridlington, which is all hardstanding. Equally as many MH's were using the service pitches as caravans.
We would have had one, but I could not get 9 nights, so opted for a standard pitch and more exercise for me.☹️
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Without wanting to sound abrasive, other than disability in any form why would anyone want a fully serviced pitch. Is it laziness? Is it a fear of exercise?
I personally welcome any chance of stretching the legs and keeping the joints a bit active as I get older, that includes the the emptying and filling.
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well, that's intersting PD, I also thought the potential provision was for less....not more...
just a tap, a CCEP, and a grey waste.....but even these wouldn't be needed on every 'aire type' provision.
I think that many campervans are poorly equipped regarding toilet facilities and many have no shower and therefore choose sites that provide
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When we are away with the van we spend as much time as possible walking, if possible direct from the site. Perhaps bus out walk back. The additional exercise of filling / emptying is but a drop in the ocean. It is purely for the convenience, and for me a more pleasurable break. Or I could just say, I have better things to do with my time. 😀
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Lets face it filling fresh water and emptying waste are hardly the most mind blowing of occupations. Far better to have them at hand to allow more time for exploring off site?
David
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