Interesting petition

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  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #332

    Wise woman, your line manager! smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #333

    🤣🤣🤣

    That's very perceptive, Euro.

  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,830 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #334

    It's worse, Moulesy. She has just shouted a very bad word.

    I told her they wouldn't be just ordinary car parks, they might even be CAMC Affiliated. But then she said "If you want to sleep in a ******* car park you can sleep with someone else"  I didn't  know she knew that word. And then she came back and shouted "And where are you going to get the ******* £50,000 from.? "  

    Oh dear. 

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,867 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #335

    I wonder if the petitioner has lost interest as there don't seem to have been any updates for a few days and the number of signatures doesn't seem to be growing so fast. Perhaps MichaelT would be kind enough to forward Rowena's post?

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #336

    How  much life insurance have you got on her?surprised

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #337

    Unless the petition signers numbers don't auto fill, looks like the counts been hovering at 2000 for a couple of days

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited August 2018 #338

    Tell Her-“it’s not just any car park, it’s a C&MC car park”👍🏻😊

  • Whittakerr
    Whittakerr Club Member Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #339

    Wow! Almost 350 posts. Is the petition really that interesting?sealed

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,394 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #340

    Isn't that like many of the Club sitessealed

    peedee

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2018 #341

    I don’t use em PD, be they dust bowls nor C/pk’s. I frequent Forests👍🏻😊

  • Xmalfran
    Xmalfran Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited August 2018 #342

     Although I love the flexibility of Aires my first thought on the Club owning them in GB is who would manage them?  There would not be Wardens.  Abroad the Aires are owned and managed by the towns they are in, any problems with flooding, electrics, traveller take overs, thefts, criminal damage etc are managed 24/7 by the Mayors office.

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #343

    Which, in a nutshell, sums up the very point many of us have been trying to make throughout this thread! smile

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #344

     agree with M,  I think we've gone wel beyond the idea of club providing or managing any site provision, haven't we?

    surely the 'best' anyone might look for as things stand  is for the club to give bit of support after reading the pet ion with an open mind.

    many 'projects' have scope change sometimes quite early on. This doesn't  mean the whole premise is wrong, in this case it shouldn't have been put to CC.

    if the Sponsor is reading this ( and why would he after the pathetic posts of last evening, inclusive club, what a joke) I hope he remains enthusiastic and feels able to take something moe meaty to an LA somewhere...

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited August 2018 #345

    The mail came via the 38 degrees website so I cannot reply unfortunately.  Still it has opened the debate on here at least.

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #346

    "If the Sponsor is reading this ( and why would he after the pathetic posts of last evening, inclusive club, what a joke) I hope he remains enthusiastic and feels able to take something moe meaty to an LA somewhere..."

    One would assume the sponsor, apparently a member of many years standing, would  at least be aware of this thread even if not actively contributing, BB.

    But what did I miss last evening? Have a load of posts been removed? undecided

  • Xmalfran
    Xmalfran Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited August 2018 #347

    Sorry, should have read the whole thread!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #348

    No need to apologise as I can understand why you didn’t!

    I think Moulesy was making the point that you have agreed with most of us here in that we’re not anti aire but don’t see it as being within the club’s remit to set up and operate such schemes. 

  • Xmalfran
    Xmalfran Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited August 2018 #349

    Possibly security?  Many Local Authorities have problems with travellers taking over car parks.

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2018 #350

    Agreed so with barriers should not be an issue, the one in Canterbury does not!!

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #351

    The one in Chester does have opening barriers. There is no doubt that provisions can be made in many towns if the will is there. Depends on location of car parks though. 

    Just not with CC involvement IMO

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #352

    I don't see an issue with CC getting involved to 'represent' the MHing membership,of the club, along with (perhaps) a collaboration with CCC and Motorhomers Club (now there a thing....) 

    I'm sure the caravanning side of the club were more than happy for the club to 'get involved' in the caravan MOT issue, which, of course, had no benefit whatsoever for the MHing members of the club....

     

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #353

    BB - you're pushing at an open door, you know! I don't think anyone (certainly very few as far as I can see) is objecting to the idea of the club, along with others, lobbying the relevant authorities for the provision of this sort of facility. It's the aim of the petition which is being questioned - you and I and most others agree it should not be for the club to "own or manage" such sites. smile

  • peedee
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    edited August 2018 #354

    you and I and most others agree it should not be for the club to "own or manage" such sites

    Perhaps not but there is really nothing to stop them doing so if they really thought it worthwhile. They could also look at changing existing sites. Does every motorhome, especially campervan need a 10m x 10m pitch or EHU? There is in my view an opportunity to create more smaller cheaper pitching which is more likely to be taken up by tourers for short stays but can a leopard change its spots?

    peedee

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited August 2018 #355

    Does every motorhome, especially campervan need a 10m x 10m pitch or EHU?

    Two different factors there. Personally I have no desire to have smaller pitches on CC sites. Many motorhomers seem to spread out on their pitch on a warm summer afternoon. 

    I also have no desire to see pitches constructed without EHU as it limits who might use them, but I can see that a minority might, but would have thought that a separate issue. This thread is, however, not about alterations to existing CC sites nor changing policies on CC sites.  

  • peedee
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    edited August 2018 #356

    I thought constructive thought was required ET!

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #357

    And here was me suspecting that you was back on your old hobby horse of smaller, cheaper pitches for motorhomers like yourself on CC sites. How uncharitable of me.

    As I said the thread is about provision of aires not turning CC sites into 'them and us' pitches.

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2018 #358

    of course MHers spread out, as do caravanners, matter expands to fill the available space......wink

    whilst I agree with PeeDee and do think some smaller, limited duration, fast turnover, non EHU pitches would be a great idea, I'm sure this would be seen as providing a service for MHs and not for 'traditional' caravans as would therefore be a 'divisive' move.....rather than being seen as providing a real need for a changing membership.....but that's the way of the club and things won't change, IMHO...

    perhaps another thread topic at sometime.

    just thinking back to the OP, we are currently pitched (in the uk) on a fast (or slow, if you like) turnover site, no ehu, less than a tenner a night (some as low as £7), stay as long as you like, as much room as you want (currently), walking distance to a lovely Hampshire maritime town, pay on departure, no booking, no upfront costs......and the sun is shiningsmile

    of course, this is nothing to do with CC, its just one of the dozens of Temporary Hioliday Sites run by CCC throughout the spring/summer.

    we are using these well placed meets more and more and, other than their size, they are actually the next best thing (for us) to the essence of what the OP would like developed.

  • peedee
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    edited August 2018 #359

    Well at a time when sites are allegedly full, creating more pitches by making a few smaller can be no bad thing. It doesn't stop those wanting larger ones having them. Should also stop the moaners complaining about small vans occupying large pitches.

    peedee

     

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #360

    Off topic I feel. However I do not wish to see sub standard pitches on CC sites only suited to a few user types. Most folk using a site want room to put out table and chairs, some a barbecue or sat dish or washing thingy. Many MHs use a canopy in sunny or rainy weather. Whatever but as long as there is 6m separation the amount of space saved by a small pitch is minimal in my view

  • peedee
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    edited August 2018 #361

    The Club already has a few substandard pitches, your description not mine, they are called Economy. Why not some on every site?

    peedee