Interesting petition
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Agreed - is there not a motorhome owners club in existence and surely that would be a more appropriate organization to lobby?
There are so many requests for upgraded facilities on sites like Cheddar and Lady Margaret's Park to name but two and requests for upgrading existing pitches to serviced pitches.Expenditure on this, for the benefit of all members is surely the club's priority - or should be.
I think Mark Bevan would be better served arguing for the club to lobby government/ local authorities to provide these facilities if there is a demand for them - but we all know how stretched finances are in those areas.
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It promoted discussion alright but it’s hard to be constructive about something so ludicrous as asking the club to buy land and set up these aires.
It's not been well thought out, in my opinion. Actually, I'll go further. It smacks of selfishness in terms of 'I want' and looking around for someone to pay while completely disregarding that organisation's other members.
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How big are the tanks for the black waste, and where do you empty these on a cc site, I have not seen that facility yet on a cc site.
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To be fair Graham, as MHP, has always done a lot of work to provide information about where people can park up with their motorhomes. So I don't see a problem with the OP except the information about the person doing the petition is missing and if they were club members they could have used CT to introduce themselves etc. Lots of people have "ideas" about the club and I've no objection to anyone coming on here to sound out opinions in a friendly fashion.
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No at all - which is why I specifically did not mention black waste.
I know people who get around the problem by carrying spare cassettes and/or using public loos rather than the on board toilet to lengthen the time between having to dispose of black waste.
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By and large in Europe overnight parking for motorhomes was initiated by local councils making car park space available - that is gradually happening here in the UK - witness Exmouth and Canterbury. Here in the SW other car parks are allowing overnights too - Tintagel, Mevagissey, Appledore, Bideford, Holsworthy, Clovelly and so on come to mind. That is probably the best way forward for motorhomers to pursue rather than looking for Club involvement.
Campsites in mainland Europe have got in on the act by offering closely spaced reduced price pitches just for motorhomes - but this Club is so tied to the 6 metre rule that there is no likelihood of that one happening, is there.
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I personally feel that the petitioner is approaching the wrong group as the club already provides a variety of pitches for all types of user via it's sites, CLs and rallies.
As Eurotraveller says in Europe many small schemes are started by local councils to promote and provide income for their areas.
Having seen what somewhere like Exmouth has been trying to do recently there is a possibility that this could be taken up by other councils. But, and it's a big but, the infrastructure has to be there already (there are toilet facilities and water supplies at Exmouth) because funding won't be coming from local rate payers when other, much more urgent and important services are needed.
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Agreed, Brue. He’s definitely approaching the wrong group. This isn’t something that can be set up in such locations by private individuals or companies.
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And you’d expect he'd be eager to put his own case and answer questions🤔
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Campsites in mainland Europe have got in on the act by offering closely spaced reduced price pitches just for motorhomes - but this Club is so tied to the 6 metre rule that there is no likelihood of that one happening, is there.
Hopefully not. I have been on sites like that many years ago but soon moved on
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Do you object automatically to everything new or different,Alan?
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Which is precisely why, in my direct answer to you, I mentioned only carrying spare cassettes and/or using public loos.
My answer that you have now commented on was to a specific question about black tanks which I wasn't rude enough just to simply ignore.
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If you read my post ET there is nowt new to being camped so close together that you can just walk between parked car and adjacent van. Anybody wants that they are welcome to it. Hopefully not something CC would provide.
I witnessed such nearly 35 years ago on some sites!4 -
In that case he should have known better than to target CAMC, Graham.
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This Motorhomer is a tad disturbed at your second paragraph suggesting selling off underused sites to fund tarmac strips in towns!
Personally I agree with most of the previous posts. It's a badly put together rather selfish petition lobbying the wrong people. By all means ask the Clubs (plural) and other touring bodies to support the idea of aires, but do it by campaigning to local authorities and sell them the idea of increasing tourism and spend, and get them to give over some night time parking for MHs and caravans, maybe even providing a waste disposal and water top up point. But leave the existing sites alone!
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A couple of points arise from this post that relate to other posts as well.
The car parks in Mevagissey and Tintagel are privately owned and are able to allow camping because the owners hold caravan site licences. Thus it is not true to say that provision has to come from councils.
In Appledore, Bideford and Holsworthy, Torridge Council requires that motohomes using the car parks to camp overnight must be at least 6m apart.
I don't know whether Clovelly Visitor Centre has a licence or whether, like some other places, it chooses to ignore the requirement for one.
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Nobody said that has to happen.
However, if the industry does change as the petition promoter suggested, leaving the CAMC with sites that are a drain on the company by virtue of being underused, then the company would be duty bound to do something about it - one possibility being selling some places to fund others elsewhere.
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How can one be constructive when a plan is so basically flawed?
Here’s my constructive suggestion - bin it now!
I’m surprised you risked your credibility by posting it. Incidentally, if you have no connection with Mark Bevan or with this petition, why are you so keen to argue the case and to see constructive discussion?🤔
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