Dogs with owners walking on play area.
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Is the simple answer to all this just to keep dogs on the designated length lead and only walk them to their exercise via the roads. This should in my view stop all this antagonism, and site fouling. It is also something that can be easily achieved and monitored by the wardens.
What do members think?
Ken
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I think there’s a huge difference between people making genuine complaints about irresponsible dog owners, as in the OP, and the few who will always jump on the band wagon because they dislike dogs.
In the case of the former, I think we all share the concern and condemn such actions across the board. What is also not acceptable is the virulent attacks on dog ownership in general that we have seen on this forum from the few who use the slightest excuse to jump in and have a go. We have even seen threats of violence and death made to dogs and if that isn’t a demonstration of dog hating I don’t know what is.
So, all those who react to the team 'dog hater' should bear in mind the undercurrents and the words of R2b describe the situation better than I can.
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That’s beyond my Ken K. I really don’t understand☹️. I’ll survive, I usually do😂😂
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We have just left the club's latest aquisition in Dorset and when speaking to some on site who have always used the site (most still expect to)there have always been a large number of multiple dogs with the site users,and then dogs were an additional charge so one argument put up by some on here that a charge would discourage dog owner from useing club sites does not hold up
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Um ... out of interest, K, how do you know who liked that post? I don't think I did, but I can see why folk would like the gist of it, leaving aside the "dog hater" expression.
But hey, weren't you the one who has complained about "thought police" when your own likes have been put under scrutiny in the past? Yes, "pot" and " kettles" truly do spring to mind!
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No JVB I didn't, after a lifetime of dealing with the public I would not get into a confrontation with someone unless I was being paid for it and as I don't have young children I have little interest in policing the play area....
Your comment, oft trotted out, is daft in my opinion, it's obvious from what I've written that the woman had no respect for the rules so me speaking to her would achieve nothing. I have no authority on a CC site.
Sure, I could take on the role of site "snitch" if I wanted to, reporting every trangression of a sign or rule at the wardens office, but I have no interest in that. If it doesn't affect me, why worry, I'm on holiday.
I quoted the example as a reflection of societies attitude now, nothing more....
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Actually, it's 5 and I’ll nip in and make it 6 in a moment. It was rather a good post as, in view of the explanations above, the actions of the sadly irresponsible dog owners truly do give dog haters even more reason to shout.
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Sadly the reopening of this thread has had the inevitable result and although I hesitate to comment on the action of moderators, I don't think it's been helped by the rather carelessly worded moderator's reply to the OP which appears, unintentionally I'm sure, to be rather dismissive of his perfectly natural grievance.
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Then, when if not noted to the site staff, are they expected to be in every place to "police?" what some on here are always saying are trans gressers of said site rules, it is these days how most trangressers of rule/laws are followed up by the the police these days As they also cannot be every where all the time
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Wasn't it your mate K who used the well known phrase about pots and kettles? 🤔
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Perhaps the time has come then for CCTV cameras to be installed on CC sites so the wardens can see all the rule transgressions without leaving the office......
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All that any of us want is for all members to respect what are some pretty simple and straightforward rules? Be that rules about how people exercise or control their dogs, be that people who fly round the site a rate of knots or be people that walk across peoples pitches although probably the latter doesn't have a rule - yet!!! Perhaps it would be more production than this flip flop between the different views for people to come up with suggestions on how the Club tackle these problems. Is there something that is being missed or are we just expecting far too much from the rule breakers? I am sure the last thing we want is wardens in high vis vests constantly controlling the campsite ticking off people who deliberately break or through a lack of understanding don't apply the rules to themselves. I suppose of a brighter note there are more that do apply the rules than those that don't?
David
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Indeed it matters little whether it is a designated play area as it is doubtless where children may well be.
It does seem strange that the play equipment, such as it was, has been removed with no alternative provided. Is this a trend, as with Buxton site, to encourage families???
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Rule breaking happens whenever and wherever, those that think there is or could be a Utopia where everyone obeys must be barmy. The most anyone can hope for is that the majority of people act in a responsible way, the minority who don't give a toss and never will is something we have to live with unless Big Brother is your thing.
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Here we go again, plenty of trivia, hair splitting, but no one comes up with a reasonable suggestion of how to stop the stupid, non caring minority dog owners who see it as Ok to let their dogs foul the sites. How about, 1) charging dogs. 2) Limiting the number 3) Place to record offenders ( say info shed) without confrontation, but with pitch numbers say. 4) Some way of recording these at HO and if it found there are persistent offenders they are banned 5) Wardens regulate lead lengths strictly and again ban those that flout the 2M rule. I admit I have novtime for inconsiderate dog owners whether on sites or in the countryside, but at least I am making suggestions. The alternative is action by HO which cant happen soon enough.
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It amused me too. It says something about the Club's priorities that there is a site with a dog walk but no play equipment for children.
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agree entirety TW
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Yes, it is the minority isn't it - glad you agree with that now. And I have absolutely zero tolerance for that minority, but I fail to see how charging, or limiting numbers will have the slightest effect on them. And I agree it's hard to see how anything will change unless some sort of action is taken against offenders and yes, maybe that does mean other site users being a bit more pro-active in bringing it to the warden's attention at the time rather than waiting to air grievances on here.
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+1 there, can't see what K is trying to say at all?
(Has Wikipedia been off line today?)
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yes indeed, R2B nailed it exactly in a few short sentences.
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The main task should fall to other dog owners to put things right
why? Not my dog. Not my land.
i get annoyed by folk ignoring the sensible site rules as much as non dog owners but I refuse to share responsibility just because I have a dog
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