Dogs with owners walking on play area.

Appache
Appache Forum Participant Posts: 26
edited July 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Why do dog owners think it's okay to walk their animals on the play area..

At Lady Margarets and this morning 20mins after visiting us our 2years granddaughter was COVERED in Dog excrement.... 

She was under supervision but fell straight in it.

Alright you'll say they pick up BUT it's not a dog walk..... it's a Play area.. my grandkids Don't play in your dog walk...Respect their play area and DON'T WALK YOUR DOG ON IT 😠😠

 

Moderator Comment:

As far as I am aware, there is no designated play area at LMP since all play 'equipment' was removed some time ago.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #2

    It would never have entered my head to take my dog in a kiddies' play area whether on site or elsewhere because it is obviously not acceptable and I doubt you'll find anyone on here who does think it’s OK.

    I hope you brought this to the attention of the wardens so they can organise a clean up and be on the look out for offenders.

    I hope your GD is oK.

  • Appache
    Appache Forum Participant Posts: 26
    edited July 2018 #3

    Asked ....Are dogs allowed on the playarea and told not really !!!! 

    It's now nearly 8 o'clock and a lady has just walked straight across with 2 dogs...Stopping to scoop up one mess. .. It can't all be picked up...Perhaps a sign in English and Welsh would help.

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2018 #4

    I think the problem is is that there is no fenced off play area, just the wooded area in the centre of the site which has some play equipment.  The dog walk is nowhere near this area, so there is no reason for dogs to be walked here.

    But I think some dog owners do think that it is OK to walk their dogs anywhere on sites, and some may not be picking up after their dogs.

    Even if they do pick up, there may be some residue remaining on the grass, so to my mind dogs should not be fouling anywhere other than in the dog walk.

    We will, in a year or so, be taking our grandson away with us, so this is something we are quite concerned about.  I would hope that no dog owner would consider letting their dog into a fenced off play area, but where the area is not fenced, they should be more considerate.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #5

    Thanks, KJ, I remember the play area now. I’ve walked across it myself, solo, to get to the facility block but I’d never have risked walking my dog across it. All that grass would have been too much temptation quite apart from it not being right to take a dog where children play.

    It's an unsatisfactory arrangement, I think, and I can understand why some people would walk their dogs there. That doesn't excuse their thoughtlessness but I can understand why they would do it.

     

  • Freddy55
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    edited July 2018 #6

    “so to my mind dogs should not be fouling anywhere other than in the dog walk.”

    With the best will in the world, unless one is pitched right next to the dog walk, how does one go about not allowing the dog to foul on the way to the walk?

  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2018 #8

    Take it up with the wardens again. Identify the owner and the dog, pitch number if you can and ask that action is taken. I don't consider the response you quote is adequate. If you get nowhere take it up with head office. 

  • Freddy55
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    edited July 2018 #10

    My dog is both elderly and deaf. No doubt if I were to start giving swift tugs there would be those that shout “cruelty”. As yet, I’ve not had this problem. I normally plot a course, taking in the road as much as possible, and always pick up. 

  • Freddy55
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    edited July 2018 #11

    Absolutely 

  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2018 #12

    I rest my case. Sensible dog owner. Obviously swift tug is less that yanking and cruelty 😉😉

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #13

    + 1

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2018 #14

    Considering the amount of illnesses you can get from coming into contact with dog faeces, anyone walking their dog in a children's play ground, fenced or not should be ashamed of themselves.

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2018 #15

    It's inexcusable anywhere - but at LMP, not only is there a perfectly good dog walking area if I recall correctly, but you've got the huge Chirk estate immediately outside the site and the canal towpath just down the road. It just defies explanation that folk can act this way! yell

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2018 #16

    Why do those dog owners refer to us that point out their offensive behaviours as " dog haters". We are just pointing out  the rules and expect them to adhere to them. From the number of threads on here about the same thing its no longer a minority who are guilty.

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2018 #17

    One of your favourite hobby horses, F. Well, sorry but despite the "number of threads on here" - which proves nothing - it is certainly the minority who are guilty and, of course, the number of dog owners referring to "dog haters" is also a minority - why on earth would you suggest otherwise? undecided

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  • moulesy
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    edited July 2018 #19

    Exactly my point, David!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2018 #20

    Given its location, are we certain it's dog poo & not fox poo? The site is right in the middle of a load of trees. Ive yet to see dogs walked through a  children's play area whether on a caravan site or not.

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2018 #21

    We came back from Chirk earlier in the week and as far as I can see from the site plan there is no designated play area? Looking at TW's description up thread is it the grassy knowl between the toilet block and the exit barrier with a couple of picnic tables on? 

    I thought the rule was that dogs were not to be exercised on site and leads had to be maximum of two metres. If that is correct there were clearly quite a few dog owners disregarding those rules the weekend we were there. On arrival we were asked if we had a dog, which we don't, so I assume dog owners are made aware of these rules when they booked in?

    David

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2018 #22

    It is possibly 5 years ago since I was at Lady Margaret's. Memory says that there was a fort like play castle on that 'knoll' then? 

    AS for exercising dogs on sites (not just CC sites) this seems to me to either be more common or I am more aware? 

  • Broadside
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    edited July 2018 #23

    I totally agree with you Fisherman. This thread pointing out the awful consequences of the amount of dogs on CMC sites is answered instantly by calling the members who dislike the amount of contamination, 'dog haters'  I have been called this on this forum before and it goes to prove the attitude of many dog owners who can not and will not see the other side of the coin. I feel that 'Mr. R. 2buckets' should stop this stupid and offensive method of 'firing back' and try and look at the problem in an adult manner.  

  • Kennine
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    edited July 2018 #24

    The phrase containing the words Head and Nail springs immediately to mind.  Good post Broadside ---- Well Done

    Kcool

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  • moulesy
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    edited July 2018 #26

    Er ... one - just one - person has used the expression "dog haters" - so that reaction is a bit over the top surely?

    Maybe better to focus on the positive fact that virtually all dog owners have joined in the condemnation.

    But that positive fact doesn't suit some posters who seem to be intent on discord, does it? frown

  • Broadside
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    edited July 2018 #27

    Not over the top at all Mousley, in fact I had to water down exactly what I wanted to say!!.  I agree, and it was good to see, that some dog owners had condemned this awful experience for this family. I had been called 'a dog hater' by this particular person when I tried to enter into discussions before about the amount of dogs on CMC sites and found it pathetic and annoying but obviously it his way of discussion but it does  nothing apart from fueling the discussion.

    I have had to stop my Grandchildren from playing on the pitch due to contamination more than once but when I made that point on this forum I was told 'not to use Club Sites'   called a dog hater, a troll, and part of 'The anti Dog Brigade all of which could not be further from the truth. So I hope you can see where my reaction comes from, I am not a hater of anything or anyone and he is totally out of order.

    Just one point regarding the OPs problem, I would have reported to the Local Authority and The Health and Safety  people. If ever there was a Health and safety issue on site, here is one 

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2018 #28

    Why not just report that post - plenty have been removed for less offense - rather than over reacting the way I consider you did?

    Look - I am absolutely in agreement that the OP should not have had this disgusting experience. I have, on every occasion when this subject has been raised, condemned those idle thoughtless dog owners (not dog lovers) who are responsible. I hope I have never given offence to anyone complaining about this.

    But I repeat - there has only been 1 use of the expression "dog hater" on this thread.  You may not have meant to cause any discord yourself but you have unwittingly opened up the opportunity for others who are keen to do so.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2018 #29

    Certainly Mr B, I will desist from my use of Dog haters when the many anti Dog posts with the known cheerleaders stop attacking every Dog lover for the few Dog owners who have the negative attitude. See it’s not all one sided. I’m the first to attack the bad Dog owners, if you did some research you’d know, beware of joining the cheerleading pack MrB. This post carries no disrespect at all to you, I understand your grievance👍🏻😊

  • Randomcamper
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    edited July 2018 #30

    The problem is part of wider societies attitude to common decency & rules and not in anyway restricted to caravan sites, CC or elsewhere....

    I was at Hawes recently on an SP and walked past the entrance to the children's play area as I headed to the dog walk with our dog...

    Two women with two young children arrived at the play area entrance with a dog on a lead. One of the children read out the sign on the gate  in a loud voice, which says words to the effect of "No dogs in the play area".  "Huh" said one of the women in a loud voice & marched in with the dog.  

    As elsewhere in life, if rules aren't enforced nobody takes any notice.  

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