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  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited July 2018 #62

    Oneput didn't say 'apply to' .... merely suggested that they're 'aimed at' 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2018 #63

    Does the same also apply to all those cars/vans/motorhomes/etc that sit in the outside lane of a by-pass doing way under the speed limit when they could easily be in the nearside lane?

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2018 #64

    Just a thought does the rule 169 apply to the lycra lot,or the mobility buggies wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #65

    Wow, that’s a terrific difference, MM. laughing

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #66

    It doesn’t apply to bikes it seems. 

    Try this -

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/law-tractors-caravans-lorries-cyclists-13285940

     

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2018 #67

     Have looked at the site and have i missed something it seems to say Caravans less than 3.5t can do 70 mph on a motorway,and several other parts of it do not seem correct,or is it just the Welsh take on itwink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2018 #68

    But differenter none the less ...... 😉

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2018 #69

     There is a lot of use of "should"..... not "must" innocent

    I should exercise more and I must exercise more are not the same 🙄

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #70

    Gee, you can’t believe anything you read, can you! laughingsurprised

    Perhaps Fish understands it. cool

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2018 #71

    I also notice the get out clause for tractors, "as they know the roads they know when it is safe to pull over"or maybe i will but then its got an English reg so i wontundecided

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #72

    At the risk of teaching grannie to suck eggs, when the HC uses must/must not, it’s law. Otherwise, it’s advisory but can still have consequences for breaching the rules.

    See 'Wording of the Highway Code'

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/introduction

     

     

  • Milothedog
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    edited July 2018 #73

    Still doesn't say I can't make progress at a steady 50mph on a 60 Max road for other types of road users. When the road straightens / gets wider I'll happily try and keep left to let anyone pass who wishes  but i'm not pulling over just because others are allowed to do 10 mph more than me. 

    Like I said earlier, the stated speed  is a limit not  a target that must be maintained.

     

    Theres also the fact to consider, if you  keep pulling over to let other traffic pass it'll make you late getting to the club site before the official booking in time so you can get the best pitch wink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2018 #74

    Agreed. I'll not impede you from going passed me, but I'm not doing all the work for you.

    And yes, when I can, if I've a tail back or had the same cars behind me a while, I'll pull over. But A roads dont normally have many 43' lay-byes wink

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2018 #75

    It is surprising how reluctant some seem to be in overtaking even when one has pulled well over and reduced speed a bit on a long straight.

    However, as I said earlier in this thread, if the single carriageway speed is reduced to 50mph, it will all be academic.

  • davetommo
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    edited July 2018 #76

    At the end of the day it not our fault that we are only allowed 50 mph on a single carriageway road. It’s the law, the Highway Code isn’t, it’s just a code of conduct.  The road traffic act is the law. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2018 #77

    I have yet to see an HGV "pull over" as per the highway code,rule 169

    You have not travelled much in Scotland then, north of the Highland Line. HGVs do pull over quite a lot here.  What is a major restriction, however, is the lack of places to get 40' of trailer, plus a tractor unit, off the carriageway.  Too many lay-bys with a single car parked right in the middle.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2018 #79

    I will pull over where I can but sometimes the lay bys are few and far between or I can't fit the outfit in. 

  • Bluemalaga
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    edited July 2018 #80

    I must admit that this thread crossed my mind when travelling east on the M4 earlier today. The motorway was fairly clear as I caught up slowly with the caravan in front travelling along the middle lane with nothing inside at all. I was not towing and not able to catch the van for quite a while although I was just nudging above 70. The van never once moved back into the inside lane for all the time it was in my view which was at least 10 minutes.

    How surprising then that the caravan was also nudging 70+ while being towed by a heavily tattooed man driving an Ice Cream van.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #81

    Would not having tats have slowed him down? I hadn’t realised having them was a factor in driving too fast or unsafely. undecided

  • huskydog
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    edited July 2018 #82

    Well ,he's not going to sell much ice cream doing 70 surprised, stop him and buy one cool

  • flatcoat
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    edited July 2018 #83

    You would fail your driving test for driving below the speed limit for no apparent reason, and sight seeing isn’t a good reason. 

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2018 #84

    Not quite true FC. You may fail for driving unreasonably slowly but not for being below the speed limit.

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2018 #85

    Hopefully your passenger told you about the tatoos as they would have  been hard to see from the drivers seat when concentrating on the road.

  • brue
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    edited July 2018 #86

    You're right Nav. I seem to recall there are notices on the A9 requesting slow moving vehicles to pull over. It has always worked quite well up there. I think the average speed cameras between Dunblane and Inverness might also have worked too for those attempting to fly up. wink

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2018 #87

    I think the average speed cameras between Dunblane and Inverness might also have worked too for those attempting to fly up.

    What has made a huge difference to journeys on that road is that the Scottish Government, since transport is a devolved matter, has increased the speed limit for HGVs. AFAIK, the reduction in accidents has been amongst the other road users no longer stuck in quite as bad tail-backs.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2018 #88

    When there are long climes,there seems to be more and more crawler lanes being installed in England and also since the speed limit on HGVs was increased a couple of years ago it has improved the flow on single carriageway roads,,but there will always be those who think doing 10mph more will get them some much faster than it actually doesundecided

  • S-max Jonny
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    edited July 2018 #89

    The Highway Code is merely a code and/or advisory. It holds  no legal standing as far as I'm aware.

    It is the Road Traffic Act 1988 which is enforceable.

  • RGR2
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    edited July 2018 #90

    If I'm doing below the limit it's because either I'm being held up by a slower vehicle (and if you're stuck up behind me probably don't have a full view to make a proper assessment of the traffic situation) or the conditions are such that a higher speed is not advisable. Therefore I have no reason to slow down or pull over. You could go no faster.

  • RGR2
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    edited July 2018 #91

    You are absolutely correct. You cannot be prosecuted for not following the Highway Code. It is an Advisory not a Statuary Instrument so does not contain 'rules' and can be amended without having to go through Parliament.

    The RTA is the law that you break. 

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