Speed on sites

Gerald Haycock
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edited May 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

We have recently returned from Bridlington and we stayed on the new section. Whilst we thought that the site was fantastic, what really annoyed us was the speed of both Caravans and Motorhomes on the straight section. What part of 5MPH do some people not understand. Luckily when we were there in the week there were no children, but I hate to think what will happen when the school holidays are on. This new part as I said is fantastic and there are no speed humps on the roadways, but how long will this last with those who do not know what 5MPH is. That's right just carry on and then start moaning when the club puts in speed humps.

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  • JohnM20
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    edited May 2018 #2

    Whilst not condoning anyone who exceeds the signed maximum speed limit it is interesting to note that at our local main hospital the speed limit for the site roads and also in the six car parks is 15mph. There are always lots of people milling around during the daytime including some children but to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any accidents. Mind you, they are in the right place if they have one !

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2018 #4

    Speed on sites?.. Someone  dealing amphetamines now? 

  • harryb
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    edited May 2018 #5

    Don't start knocking this post. The more the problem is brought out into the open the more the club might realise how important it is and how it affects members.

    There is a small piece in this months Magazine and a report from the club council mentions speeding issues. So HQ admit it is a problem. The more it is brought to their attention the more likely there will be some kind of result.

    If people were to write to HQ about this then that would help too. I wrote about a particular site late last year and received a phone call from HQ and spent quite a while talking about it. They do take notice but the more that do it the better 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2018 #6

    C'mon, Harry, you know this subject has been done to, err, death.

    We know it’s a serious subject but there’s only so much we can say again and again and again.

    It would be more interesting if the OP had told us of his proactive approach in bringing it to the attention of the wardens, or HQ, or the speeders themselves. Then we'd know if action was being taken or if the speeders had seen the error of their ways.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #7

    indeed, the last time this was discussed (many years ago nowsmile) didn't someone from the club state that the first recourse is to inform the warden. Wardens do take action but only if they know.

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  • JillwithaJay
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    I'm not certain I'd agree that, by informing the site staff, they're prepared to do anything about it as we ourselves have reported speeders only to be told that, unless they see it, they can't do anything.

    We frequently see the little site tractor exceeding their own speed limit too.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #10

    re your last sentence, do you mean this thread or the 5mph 'system'?

    I think no matter what the limit some people will always just disregard it, as on public roads, I really don't get or do speeding on the highways and I have colleagues and real friends who think nothing of doing 90+ mph when they can.

    But that is on public roads, On a campsite where there are children and of course adults who are perhaps more relaxed than normal and of course the driver is perhaps more relaxed as well. I really can't see why anyone has to do above 5mph. For one thing you have voluntarily chosen to come on a site where the limit is set ar 5pmh? Also what need is there to do any more? Get to your pitch a few seconds faster?

    So yes there has been no deaths, but injuries? I personally see it as mitigating a possible future death or injury. Who can argue with that?  

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #11

    except that JK (a warden posting on here) has stated he takes action

  • harryb
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    edited May 2018 #12

    Yes, I know that TW but until something is done about it then it will never go away. Like two other continuous contenious issues on here.

    If HQ or the moderators think reoccuring posts are "done to death" as you put it then can I suggest they close them.

     

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  • harryb
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    "So yes there has been no deaths, but injuries? I personally see it as mitigating a possible future death or injury. Who can argue with that?"

    I totally agree with that and that is why these posts need to be kept going until something is done.

  • Tinwheeler
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    That’s entirely up to them, Harry, but to suggest people were 'knocking' the thread was a bit over the top in view of the number of times we've discussed it and how seriously the majority of people regard the issue.

    We also all know that talking on here to a tiny minority of site users will never make this issue, or any other, go away. To think otherwise is unrealistic.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2018 #16

    There is a notice that is pointed out to all arrivals and in both to let blocks at Bridlington site adviseing of the speed limit and that there is cctv installed to assist in monitoring the site activities and speeding,when talking to the site staff it is having "some" success, but as is noted on other roads used by those who think they know best the camera's cannot "see"everywhere, and it is not unsociable  for other members to advise the site staff if they consider as most do it to be unsociable to ignore the speed limit on sites and the areas that have been mentioned by the OP pass the kiddies play area

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2018 #17

    Have not seen a "little tractor"on Brid site just an battery electric buggy towing the trailer on the "bin run"and trying to find those that think it below them to advise office what pitch they have chosen,then wonder why they cannot re enter the site as the have not got the Barrier access card

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2018 #18

    Sounds like a good scheme, JV. It needs some form of monitoring to aid enforcement of the limit.

    Actions rather than words - that’s the way to do it👍🏻

  • GTP
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    edited May 2018 #19

    Anyone actually kept to the 5mph limit whilst towing a caravan ? 8 - 10 mph is the best I can achieve..otherwise the engine stalls.

  • harryb
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    edited May 2018 #20

    I wasn't suggesting people were knocking the post. I was trying to pre-empt the replies to further posts ("don't start knocking this post . The more the problem is brought out into the open the more the club might realise how important it is and how it affects members") knowing that the topic had been discussed many times before and therefore suggesting the post be taken seriously.

    The topic of speeding will never leave me because of the first hand consequences I suffered some years ago because of it. 

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2018 #21

    Bridlington site is is very spread out between the "old?"and latest additional  pitches and one thing that  seems to have been learnt is not to put the serviced pitches near the facilities block so those on standard are nearest ,they are arround the perimeter of the new area, untill it has "matured" there will be "complaints that it is too open"undecided

  • Kennine
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    edited May 2018 #22

    If a customer goes to a member of the site staff and tells tales on another customer, it results in a "he said, no he said, scenario" and nothing positive happens. But if the site staff were actively vigilant and sees the speeding customer, it's easy then for the staff to remove them from the site and report them to head office. 

    As far as site staff speeding on their diddymen tractors are concerned, is it not just one of their few perks of the job ?.

    smile

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #24

    but even if it possibly stops one accident, serious or otherwise, no matter what the probabilities, are from ever happening isn't that a good thing? 

    I'm not really bothered about what the CAMC says when there is one, I'm just thinking about someone getting hurt. You not at all bothered by that?

  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2018 #25

    Are we talkng about all UK sites or just Club sites? I have never found it a life threatening problem elsewhere in this country. 

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #27

    Ok, I suppose as long the risk >0 then I'll stick to 5mph just in casesmile

  • huskydog
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    edited May 2018 #28

    To be honest I can't say that I always keep to 5mph, if there is nobody about on certain parts of the site then I might be up to 10-15mph , but I drive expecting the unexpected and fully aware of people movement 

    the speed limit passed our local school is 20mph , have they got it wrong ???

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  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited May 2018 #30

    Yes,tick over speedo does not even register, but the vroom vroom noise made by the idiot following around the site does register, complete simpletons, big heads and small brains.😄

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2018 #31

    You cannot have read the no entry signs correctly,when noting  site staff going the "wrong way?" I understand it says except service vehicleswink