Noisy Park Coppice

P Jackson
P Jackson Forum Participant Posts: 4
edited May 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Visited Park Coppice last weekend and was disturbed by noisey neighbours two out three nights of our stay. 

Friday night, folks were talking loudly, standing outside their awning, slightly worse for drink till 3am. When I confronted them politely at 2am I was told “they could talk even louder so be careful, they continued for another hour. 

I mentioned this to one of the site wardens who was very helpful and said if it happened again to call the site number and leave a message and the warden on call would deal with it.

Saturday was quiet, which was a relief.

Sunday,  another couple from Liverpool got absolutely paralytic and were f’ing and blinding along with their rendition of ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’ sitting outside their unit completely oblivious to anyone else around them. The time midnight!

I called  the site number and left a message and impressively after about 20 mins a warden came and told them to be quiet. The warden returned next morning and I assume reiterated a warning. 

We’ve been caravanning for 30 years and never had an experience like this

Just what is going on? Were these people Club Members? Why don’t the on call wardens patrol at 11pm, warn noisy folks, return at 11.30 and if they are still at it eject them from the site next morning. 

I would! 

PJ

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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,150 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2018 #2

    I’m glad the warden dealt with it.

    They can’t work all round the clock due to the working time directive. Full night time cover would mean employing more staff which would push site fees up. 

  • P Jackson
    P Jackson Forum Participant Posts: 4
    edited May 2018 #3

    True, but surely its not up to members to police thoughtless, rude folks who just have no idea how to behave. 

    Why should I pay near enough £100 to have my blood pressure up when I should be relaxing.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #4

    I agree that you should not have to and appalled this has happened. Like you I've never known this happen on a club site, I really hope it's a blip.

    I'm impressed by the wardens coming out. maybe next time we should go to the wardens direct?

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited May 2018 #6

    It doesn't happen 'over there' ..............oftensurprisedlaughingwink

     

    Well done the wardenslaughing

  • Randomcamper
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    edited May 2018 #9

    It double posted sorry...!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2018 #10

    + 1

  • dreamer1
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    edited May 2018 #11

    pj

    I totally agree with your comments some members seem to think when they are in their awning no one else can hear them ,we used to go to coniston a lot and I noticed an area where we used to stay attracted a lot of caravaners who wanted to be together and you could hear them well past 11 o clock. We have just come back from Lady Margarets in Chirk and had no late drinking issues it was wonderful glad to hear the wardens helped but at the time its irritating. I am not saying everyone needs to be like a church mouse but show some respect to others regarding noise not everyone has to get legless to enjoy being away.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #12

    +2

  • flatcoat
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    edited May 2018 #13

    I dont ‘buy’ into the drink excuse as if that makes it all ok? It’s simple, if They were worse for wear for drink to the extent described the rules should make it clear members or non members will be banned. If there aren’t any consequences such behaviour will continue and get worse. 

  • Kennine
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    edited May 2018 #14

    The working time directive covers the number of hours worked.   A shift system allows employee cover to be extended. 

    Why should on site employees all start and finish work at the same time. ?.      With a shift system,  coverage can easily be spread into the evening. The number of hours worked would not change,  but the benefits to the CMC in terms of monitoring the adherence to their rules and the satisfaction of their customers would be tremendous. 

    I agree with a previous poster who indicated that it was not the customers responsibility to police a campsite. 

    cool

  • S-max Jonny
    S-max Jonny Forum Participant Posts: 81
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    edited May 2018 #15

    What is it with scousers and that the need to sing that awful song ?

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited May 2018 #16

    So now it's now not just dark and dingy it's noisy with drunks,pity they wherenot in a motor home,you could call the police👍

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2018 #17

    Given the rarity of my experiencing any problems due to other site users I have no need of a warden on patrol over an extended period. Perhaps you have forgotten how generally well behaved folk are on CC sites K

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2018 #18

    could be because K has been in (self imposed?) exile from club sites for a while?

    I agree though that we don't need a set of wardens on duty patrolling club sites 24/7.  

  • Freddy55
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    edited May 2018 #19

    Over the years, I’ve used a few CC sites, including Park Coppice. I’ve yet to experience poor behaviour, quite the opposite. Mind you, I’ve encountered one or two ‘stuffy’ types 😁

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2018 #20

    To work a shift system ,is an expensive way to cover any work enviroment, as anyone who has needed implement this system will advise,undecided

  • Freddy55
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    edited May 2018 #21

    I was pretty much thinking the same thing. Shift pay would surely end up with higher prices? Would we all be prepared to pay more to cover odd occurrences?

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2018 #22

    Shift pay need not mean higher rates of pay. However as far as CC sites go it would be a sad waste of resources as well as a mither for staff.

  • MDD10
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    edited May 2018 #23

    Some of us are rather constrained to them with school breaks.  Having said that, I have Coniston loads of times and never had a problem so fingers crossed as going back for first time run two years in a couple of weeks

     

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited May 2018 #24

    Understand your situation MDD as we've been there too.  I'm off to Coniston myself next month but I do recall an incident several years ago where a female in a group had a tad too much ale and the volume rose considerably around 1 am.  Somebody contacted the warden who 'took her off site' in his van to allow the rest of us to get some sleep.  The whole group quietly vacated the site early the following morning.

  • Janet
    Janet Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited May 2018 #25

    Would be interesting to know when you were last on our site, it's quite beautiful here at the moment. Yes it can get a bit shaded but the clue is in the name 'coppice'.

    As I mentioned before, we had nearly 600 adults and children on site at the time and unfortunately the law of averages means sometimes people do not always have consideration for others.

    Incidents like this are very rare on our site.

  • yorksman
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    edited May 2018 #26

    whats a motorhome got to do with anything?

  • Randomcamper
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    edited May 2018 #27

    H128 is quite possibly referring to motorhoming forum's ( fora?) longest running and favourite fable, the drunk in charge hypothetical question....

    However it's more than most unlikely to be relevant to someone correctly sited on a CC pitch, so not worthy of raising in the first place.....

  • ABM
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    edited May 2018 #28

    And  yet  the  opposite  can  &  does  happen !

    At  Exmoor  House  Club  Site  Last  W/end  I  went  out  for  the  day  to  enjoy  myself.  Coming  back  onto site  I  found  a  large  caravan  &  awning  set  up  next  to  me  on  what  appeared  to  be  the  very  last  available  pitch.  Total  number  of  occupants   seven  { 7 }  mainly  Italians.  As the  evening  wore  on laughter  &  talking  took  place,  obviously,  but  none  of  it  was  loud  or  disturbing.  Feeling  a  wee  bit  tired  I  closed  down  at  about  11pm  and  retired.  Not  a  sound  could  be  heard  apart  from  me  snoring   ( I think undecided )

    Next  morning  I  was  approached  by  the  senior  English  speaking  gentleman  who  expressed  his  regrets  that  they  might  have  disturbed  me,  despite  my  protestations  that  I  had  no  complaints  about  their  conduct,  just  my  own  physical  tiredness.

    Every  time  I  saw  them  there-after  it  was  all  sweetness  and  light  &  handshakes  &  Best  Wishes  ( both  ways )  on  their  departure.

      Which  of  these  examples  is  most  likely  to  recur  this  coming  week  end  ??

  • trellis
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    edited May 2018 #29

    ABM ,I totally agree with the last two sentences of your post. My wife Yvonne and I have just returned home from 5 nights at Rowan park club site,pitched next to us was a smashing lad from Barnsley in a custom built M/H .We chatted for ages about his travels past and those in the planning , one involving an expedition to outer Mongolia!.When we left this morning it was handshakes all round , the end to a great getaway. But alas for every bunch of rose's you will always find the odd thorn.😎.