Time for reduced rate for "small" campers

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  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #122

    I don't really think there is a lot of difference to allowing surface type booking, which a lot of folk have been calling for. If that is brought in there will almost certainly be a rush for it and the grass will remain unclaimed. Hopefully made attractive by a discount and maybe let at the last minute if the weather is good.

    The CAMC I feel needs to do something, they have changed the name to reflect growing MH use, they need to change a few other things if they don't want to loose market share. Currently, although not liking it, I am OK if I end up on grass and at 7.34m free to use most pitches. However, we are looking at changing to a small MH. Under the current booking arrangements the CAMC will be loosing a significant number of them.

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #123

    Nobody has mentioned that some pitches have a better view than others, so why not charge a premium for that.  Or extra to be near the toilet (human or dog), or the CWP, or playground, not under the birds' popular trees, away from the bins.  We could probably to manage to have a different price for every pitch on a site, or even on the network.

    Oh - and charge less for long stayers as they don't run over the grass verges as much!!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #124

    It’s an additional complication to choosing a surface, Steve. It’s another option entirely.

    Changing to a small MH, eh? You know what cynics will conclude over your discount for small pitches stance. wink

    Grass is fine for a MH in good weather. Out of summer, either the grass pitches aren't open or we go to an all HS site.

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #125

    The Adria we particularly liked was 6.6 metres, so would not qualify.😉

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #126

    Steve, of course it isn't complicated...some will have you believe that any change is complicated...

    categorising pitch types as you describe is easy, it just takes a bit of desire to complete the task...the data element 'pitch type' just needs an attribute chosen from a number of categories....

    in the old days, this would have been classified as a 'simple' change to any IT system...

    these days, some see this additional choice (which is what I thought we all wanted) as complex.

    as ALL pitches on a site will support any outfit below the site limit, it doesn't matter if, when booking with a large vehicle, there are only small pitches left...your van will still fit and you'll get a bit of discount too..almost 7 nights for 6 re the pitch fee.

    ...but if you can get the pitch size you want (large or small) then great, happy customers....and no 'grumbling' when you see a large pitch with a small camper on it...

    i think you've cracked it Steve, write it up a PID (Project Initiation Document) and run it past the Steering Committee....wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #127

    That’s not a 'small MH' in my book, Steve.smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #128

    "...but if you can get the pitch size you want (large or small) then great, happy customers....and no 'grumbling' when you see a large pitch with a small camper on it..."

    Want to bet on it?laughing

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #129

    Very rare that I hear anybody's TV,  children or arguments on a CC site

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #130

    You need new batteries in you hearing aid, T.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #131

    My hearing is acute N. Might be the sites and times of year?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2018 #132

    Very rare for us as well.....we have Site and pitch selection down to a fine art nowadays! laughing

  • JayOutdoors
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    edited April 2018 #133

    No time to read all posts.  Just dip in now and again.  This made me laugh out loud so thanks for that.

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #134

    I suppose its all relative. I would call the Niesmann Bischoff 88EK, mentioned in another thread, large at 8.76 metres. Something mid 7's medium and mid 6's small. Above and below these figures I would use the prefix very.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #135

    +1smile

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2018 #136

    That's because the question is incorrectly phrased. 

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #137

    When you look at your outfit in my profile it states :-

    Length
    Shipping length in metres, including the drawbar and hitch

    Does it not ask for that when you first put it in? It's a while so I can't remember. The description seems clear enough to me. Also I seem to remember I just selected my van and it put the figures in and I then had to amend the height, because we have a sat dome.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #138

    that's a good point Steve, we have not considered the height of outfits in this at allsmile

    I mean taller outfits have more space to heat and therefore use more electricity?

    So what about a discount for better insulation? 

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #140

    I suspect that some small campervans and older caravans may be less well insulated and should pay additional pitch fees.

    Daft innit wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #141

    well I think we have reached a consensus here? It is the level of insulation not dimensions that should incur a discount?

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #142

    Unfortunately having a well insulated van does not mean you use less energy. Awning heaters are not terribly efficient😉 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #143

    I prefer user discretion and live and let live in general laughing

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2018 #144

    I will be OK , I've got plenty of body fat to keep me warm cool

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #145

    you mean keep things as they are? I suppose it's a fair system...

    well OK thensmile

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2018 #146

    All through this thread and others, is the fact that the CMC are still failing to supply enough pitches of the correct design to cater for their diversive  customer base.  The CMC management are stuck in the 1960's and are failing to take into account the changes that are happening within the leisure camping industry.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #147

    And your kennel will only need a very small pitch so you’ll be in line for a huge discount. In fact, they may pay you to use club sites, Husky. laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #148

    Oh Dearundecided but the sites continue to be well used by the majority of satisfied memberswink

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #149

    That depends which "camp" one is in Dog Friendly or notwink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #150

    Club sites are all dog friendly camps. wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #151

    That’ll be why they’ve changed the name to be more inclusive and why they’re branching out into pods. Yep, good try, K.