A Milestone has been Reached!
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Well I'm sold (any excuse to spend money on a new 'van gadget!)!!
The only thing I'm wondering about is whether to get one 10kg bottle or a couple of smaller ones. We currently have 2x calor lites, the reason being that we can swap to the full one when the first is unexpectedly empty during a holiday and they don't put the noseweight over our towcar limit. But I'm thinking that if we have a large safefill we can top up whenever needed and never have the uncertainty of whether there's enough gas to get us through a weekend so could get away with just one cylinder. Correct?
In this case, I assume the largest 10kg bottle will be most suitable because it holds plenty of gas to prolong time between refilling, and also we wouldn't need a 'spare' second bottle because we can fill the big one before/during/after a holiday as needed.
I've measured the gas locker and it seems we have plenty of height to fit one in, but I also worry about the nose weight getting too high if we have more than the single 10kg bottle.
Decisions decisions...
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Like you we had 2 Calor Lite bottles & have just bought the 10kg Safefill & are on our 1st trip out with it.
The advice from Safefill was initial fill of no more than 15 litres that cost less than e tenner. After 6 days off grid we thought we should top up. It took 10 litres for a massive £6.84!
Now been away for a further 12 days off grid & the bottle is just under half full.
We did bring 1 Lite bottle for the BBQ BUT once it's empty I can see it being swapped for a smaller bottle, maybe a 5 kg Safefill.
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Thanks DC, that's just the info I was looking for - initial setup and ongoing cost - perfect, many thanks indeed!
When we had 2x calor lite bottles in the gas locker the noseweight was pretty much at the maximum that we wanted (Bailey Olympus, so no slack to play with unfortunately), so we'll only be able to have one or the other. This makes it all the more important that we get the decision correct.
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I started with the large cylinder (no others available) and it worked well just as Matty said - you can see when you want a refill - (double check at night with a torch I made a mistake of thinking it was very low when it wasn't!)
Then I went for a small one for the BBQ but that is still emptying an existing camping gaz cylinder at the moment! I feel really well set up - and decisions aided by this great forum!
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Even after all this time. It seems some garages are still Ignorant of the update to red book. This was reply I received yesterday from MORRISONS.
Thank you for getting in touch.
I'm sorry but Morrisons don't permit filing of any portable gas vessels in any of our stations. We will not take any risk with allowing customers to use portable gas vessels or fill motorhomes as our staff cannot be expected to be trained in and inspecting portable vessels and recognise their technical qualifications,
I'll be sure to pass your feedback on for future consideration and please feel free to get in touch if you should need anything else.
Kind regards
Jane Vickers
Customer Assistants
Wm Morrisons Supermarkets Plc
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Can we have an address please so we can all write to them and explain that they are pilooks.
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I have filled our under- slung LPG tank a couple of times in the past at Morrisons, but not at our local store as they don't have a gas pump.
If Morrisons ever refuse to allow me to fill our perfectly legal fixed Gasit gas tank, it will be a very long time before I ever buy diesel from them either, or indeed anything else...
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Yes interesting thread Merve and one move I would definitely make if swapping to a motor home in the next year or so, (plan to do plenty of off grid abroad)
Not a C&MHC carpark in site https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2yomk2ydOk
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The problem with filling gas bottles as far as Morrisons is concerned is clearly given in the following extract from their response as posted on previous page:
I'm sorry but Morrisons don't permit filing of any portable gas vessels in any of our stations. We will not take any risk with allowing customers to use portable gas vessels or fill motorhomes as our staff cannot be expected to be trained in and inspecting portable vessels and recognise their technical qualifications,
The same response likely to be given by many chains of filling stations and particularly who employ minimum wage staff to man pumps during various hours of the day. When a cashier decides to leave they employ a replacement ASAP and are likely to give minimum training. They are unlikely to wish trusting such an employee to tell a safe to fill bottle from a diy bodge job.
A simple risk assesment will decide many managers to take this stance.
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The tiny quantities in each transaction are unlikely to excite them either. 'I topped up my Safefill and only needed 8 litres. It cost me under £5'
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Cody,
I liked your video, and the one that comes immediately after it, they reminded me of when me & my mates were in our 20's towing our jet ski's to any beach we could find......
But I forsee a few issues for the CAMC....
There appeared to be someone towing a stuck outfit. This clearly hadn't been risk assesed by the warden and there was even a girl riding on the footboard of one of the vehicles. If they had read CT they would know to use traction boards for this.
The pitches did not appear to be properly defined and I could see no pitch markers indicating whether we could erect an awning at all...
There was no EHU and certainly no meters...
And the facilities block if there was one must have been miles away, as it doesn't appear in the video...
There is no visible chemical toilet point and nowhere to dump your grey waste, for a horrible moment I imagined them just tipping the water they had rinsed their wine glasses with in the sand....
The Motorhome Service Point did not appear to be up to club standard either........that would definitely cause upset here......
And as for those girls....in bikini's..??....it causes consternation on here if someone goes to the toilet block in their jimmies....
No...I'm afraid that is all totally unsuited to us CAMC members.....
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You seem to be having a go at merve because he is brining it to the attention of others that there is a real alternative to Calor, why is this apparantly getting your back up if i used a lot of gas i would be very grateful to merve for bringing it to my attention . Well done Merve althrough it doesent affect me so much but others will be thankful for the info.
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We have just bought a mh so invested in refillable cylinders. 8 bought 2x6kg gasit bottles with hoses all in for £290 gas to fill both £16 yesterday at a Shell garage.
now if I were to buy/rent 2x calor 6kg bottles the outlay would have been £61 each £122, we will be spending 2/3 months every year in Spain off grid so would hav3 to buy another cylinder (Spanish)
I have estimated payback is around 3 years but not taking into account having to buy 2x calor instead, so I guess in real terms less than 2 year pay back.
I fitted the cylinders myself and it only took around an hour, very easy job to do. Check for gas leaks has been carried out so we are fully up and running.
Kev
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