Increasing pitch numbers
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Ah, but would you want to sit out, dine when your view is the slab side of the next door outfit? I wouldn't, and we don't, either in van or MH!
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Alan, don't you actually read the post you're replying to....?
i said that I felt it right that the club gets its pitching provision aligned to its customers' requirements and earlier I suggested the club do some research (physical, on site and logical, via surveys?) to establish what that changing requirement might be....
nowhere have I suggested sites do withouth awning pitches, except, perhaps, at places like BW...) or to remove the ability for anyone to spread out under a canopy on a summer's day...
as it happens, a MHer on a non awning pitch could do just that, without taking up an awning pitch....
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Not in our life. We usually pay something like £10-£15 per night and have the kind of space we dream about, often including decent loos and showers as well as everything else!
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I think what we really need is more sites rather than cramming more pitches onto existing sites. I also know that’s easier said than done so I’d be interested to hear just how proactive the club is in searching out new sites.
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I can read well and understand reasonably well BB
Can you?
I simply said that by increasing the number of non awning pitches then choice of pitch is reduced for many more members than the few who would wish to use such pitches. As for what possibly 20% of the membership 'could do' I have no interest. For me a pitch should suit ALL members whenever and wherever practical.
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Cornersteady in the second or third post in this thread reminded us that non awning pitches are not necessarily smaller pitches but are classified as non awning because of the general amount of space around them which means they don't meet the spacing requirements if awnings are erected. So even if you converted sites like Baltic Wharf and Rowntree Park to all non awning pitches it would not necessarily mean more pitches? If that were the case what would be the point? I am all for the Club looking at different ideas but I suspect these can only be achieved on new or upgraded sites. The only trouble is that we seem to be moving towards more serviced pitches when a site is upgraded which suggests the Club don't have value at the top of its priority list? I would like to see a price differential between the different types of pitches which would fit neatly into being able to book a hardstanding pitch, with or without awning, a grass pitch. We are already halfway there because you can book a serviced pitch or an economy pitch so why not go the whole hog and make all pitch types bookable and have a price difference?
David
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What a really good idea Nav. Good to see some proper lateral thinking on this forum.
Come to think of it , as the CMC is increasingly making their sites resemble supermarket car parks anyway, it would take little effort to go the whole hog and do as you suggest.
K
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Agree. Pitches are currently too small!
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but you're talking about CLs, not club sites...so (to quote the famous line) hardly a fair comparison....
BTW, my Vauban Aire photos in (yet) another (pricing) thread showed a whole paddock of space, with free pitching for two days incl free electric....but not a valid comparison so I won't mention it....
club site demographics are changing, MHs on a non awning pitch have more space than a typical car/caravan/awning/barrels scenario....and then some still want more space to 'sit out' despite covering their whole pitch with kit.....
this issue is, the club wants to be all things to all men with prices uniform except for serviced pitches....irrespective of size or whether an awning can be used....as it happens, I don't think that's right (although I'm happy to conform) I'd rather see a sliding scale with a differential for awning or non awning, giving customers a better choice...as per David K's post....
the ratio of each type to be determined by CC research.
as above, hardly rocket science...
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+1 (did I get that right?
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Personally I would like the 'club' to increase every pitch size to 100 sq mtrs , fully serviced including Chem disposal (as Chatsworth), with the usual bollard offering TV & ethernet hook up..oh yes and a privacy hedge. Obviously this would incur a cost, but as we only book sites with fully serviced pitches, I would not object to say £45/50 pn for a couple.
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It’s just one site, GTP, and, while I’m not decrying the achievement, more are needed especially in areas where there is a scarcity of sites.
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yes, and as each new site the club build or acquires (Bridlington, Teesdale, Stoneheaven..) or any conversions from the club does grass to HS, they all have only either awning pitches or SP so it's probably the case that awning pitches will become the norm.
And rightly so, who wants narrow cramped pitches?
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as it should be remembered that non awning pitches were introduced due to the 'new' fire regulations, they were never ever constructed as a 'non awning' pitch
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"And rightly so, who wants narrow cramped pitches?"
but they're only perceived as 'narrow' if the pitch is full with car, awning, caravan and barrels.....oh, and some 'sitting out' space...no wonder they feel cramped....
a single MH on even the smallest 'within regs' CC pitch will seem far more spacious than the above....
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a mixture of both for me, and I'm not really bothered either way, once I'm on 'my pitch' I'm not bothered about the size of the site.
But location is more important for me
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I'm talking about Nunnykirk, Marazion, Bromyard Downs, Much Wenlock (RIP) etc.....as well as CLs, CS's, small private sites, so actually a bit of a good comparison!
Personally, and coming at this from a reasonably long history of Club membership, and as a visitor with both types of outfit, a van and a MH, the one thing I find most irritating about Club Sites at the moment is the pricing structure. It's a pain in the proverbial, and to add in further parameters is yet another step away from an easy to use booking system, which is often cited by many as a prime bonus in terms of being a member!
At the end of the day, most of us have individual wants and necessities, and some of these wants and necessities alter as we change outfits, become that little bit less able, need those extra bits of assistance to keep us cruising, or to fit different budgets. On the whole, the Club has a fairly good mix of sites, pitch types, locations and facilities, at reasonably simple to understand and book prices. Still a unique selling point, still worth the membership. There are lots of other options out there, if folks want something radically different. We know, we use them on occasion.
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At the risk of being rude, I suspect I could do a very accurate demographic profile for what you suggest. I could also negotiate a very nice cottage at the same nightly rate you quote as well, without having to buy the outfit!
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Has anyone contacted, say, Morris Leisure, to make the same point?
It's seems to me that many of the much praised newer commercial sites make a virtue out of large, spacious pitches.Why would anyone expect the club actively to go against that trend?
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