Arrival times
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"I am not sure why with a few exceptions, like the earlier cross channel ferry quoted, anyone should ever be more that 5 mins early."
Then again, why would the club bend the rules for a very infrequent user, staying for just 1 night, but not for regular users staying, say, for a week?
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Me coming from a family of ten and being the " Black Sheep " father being a RSM in the Leic's Tigers Regiment, I was totaly pixxed off with rules through my youth, as we get older and mature we come to accept there is generally a very good reason for rules. I now enjoy the peace, quiet and cleanliness generally found on CMC sites and do my best to abide by these rules. For those that disagree why not go to meetings, change the rules but IMO don't just moan and break them.
To suggest " we can do this, we can do that on other sites " go ahead do it ( on other sites )!!
Happy caravanning.
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Depends why they arrive early. If it were permitted I would wish to arrive just before 11am. Not to get hard standing which I have not failed to get in the last 200 site visits (or thereabouts), but because I am ready to leave a site and move on easily by 8.30am or earlier and usually aim for 2 or 2.5 hour run to next site. So sometimes I might wait until 10.30 before leaving if only a 90 min run
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I'm getting a bit tired of the arguments about arrival/departure times. It is clear that arrival shouldn't be before x o'clock and departures no later than y o'clock. So we abide by those (sensible) rules. End of. It might be a bit inconvenient on an odd occasion but generally it works okay so let's get on with it and stop winging! Just saying.
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OK, head above the parapet time. Last month, middle of February, we'd booked a few nights at a club site in the Cotswolds. It takes us about an hour and a half to get there. As it's about as low as low season gets, I rang to ask if we could arrive, maybe half an hour before midday. Nothing to do with "bagging the best pitch", simply wanting to make the most of a short break. Wardens says "yes" - that's great for us and we arrive, as asked at 11:30. If the warden had said "no" we'd have just accepted it and arrived at 12. But that extra half an hour made all the difference to the first day of our break.
Wouldn't dream of doing it out of low season or asking to arrive hours early mind you and certainly not just turning up without having asked first.
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That's the point Dave that you father grasped and accepted.
Your father knew there were certain rules to this event and as he didn't want to 'conform' to those rules he didn't go. His choice - simple.
You don't like the rules on club sites and do not want to conform to them (arrive three hours early and all that) so why come to a club site in the first place? Why expect the rules to be altered in your favour? You have been a member a long time I seem to recall, 20+ years?, you should know the form by now so why return? Go to where the rules suit you?
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I think that is a sensible approach M, there is warden's discretion and long may that continue but just to arrive early without warning and expect to be let in is completelty something else.
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I don't generally have a problem with sensible rules, those that are obviously in place so that they help everyone, keep something flowing well and safely. But I happen to think that blind obedience to something just for the sake of it does not do any one or any society good. We are only debating petty comings and goings on staid, orderly holiday parks, where, let's face it, an exciting moment is if someone's child pedals the wrong way round the roadway. But it doesn't mean that on an empty site, in the middle of Winter, arriving early and being able to pitch up is a crime. It's sensible management of a resource by an empowered employee!
Our world is a much better place for more people because a few brave individuals and groups decided to challenge tablets of stone.
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No idea ET. It's only a phrase to me, I could have used Purple Book, Green Book, the Good Book, Delia's Cookbook, but I think you get the gist!
Edit: Purple and Green will only be relevant to those who may or may not have been Union members in the past........that choice is now denied many, but hey ho, life progresses.......zero contracts, minimum wages, no holiday pay...........
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Isn’t it simply a metaphor?
I very much doubt that any religious implication was intended. After all, that would be against the rules.
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isn't the CC an equal opportunities camping org?
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It tries to be BB! It tries,
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I think it is, TDDA....You can ALL wait until 'opening time'
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But as we now know that was before the WTD was "forced?"on UK business, and site staff worked all hours for little reward,now it is very few sites that the site staff are even contracted and paid to work the Max 48 hrs ,some are paid to work less than 40hrs which spread over 7 days is not a lot to be "available"as some members expectations would hope for,
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Stone tablets were around long before Christianity was invented.
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Irrespective of one's theological leanings, the Ten Commandments do tend to facilitate an harmonious society. I can't imagine that thieving, infidelity and murder are considered beneficial characteristics by anyone.
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The hours that sites and staffing levels were "allocated" when the WTD was implemented,was a direct result of a "survey" by yet again "consultants" as I understand the site staff themselves were quite willing to continue as before ,to give the service that they took as part of the job ,but were then "advised?"that there was no problem in doing so by opting out of the 48hr STD but would not be remunerated for any hours over and above what they were"contracted" to cover
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You can of course stay slightly later if site circumstances allow free of charge, 4pm max I think. You just need to enquire of those that know the situation and if this is possible on the day of departure. And of course accept the call made!
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Actually, coveting your neighbour's house is quite on topic if you think about it.........all that racing to Site is about getting the perfect pitch, and then grumbling about it if others get there before you! And howling "unfair" if the (sensible) Wardens are thought to be in collusion!
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