Living in a Caravan Vs Living in a house

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  • JVB66
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    edited March 2018 #152

    I do not have to pay for my tv licence, and our house was bought cash with  some of my redundancy money in 1994 for £27000 and it is  now  worth over £350,000,which we have willed to our children when we go,but what cash and investments we have is ours and we intend to spend as much as we can before we leave this world,and as for running costs it is below what it would cost to be living on sites all year,wink

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2018 #153

    It was Malcolm that specifically brought Freeview into the discussion, and Freeview is not an on site benefit, anyone can access it free with the correct apparatus.

    Yes, you do need a licence, but we have just read Malcolm's take on why he does not need one.

    Like JVB, we are really old and now get a free licence, so our Freeview is truly free, and legal!

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2018 #155

    Even when you add in the extras like tv licence, sky package and high speed broadband and phone, our outgoings only come to about £12 a day. As with many on here the house is paid for and appreciating nicely, much better than any other reasonably safe investment. As with JVB we hope to leave its value to our sons. However, if we ever did run out of savings it is available for equity release. I doubt that is an option on a depreciating caravan. 

    When M adds on the cost of his towing vehicle and extra sites every 21 days, even with seasonal pitches I doubt he is much below this figure. Whilst we have a caravan and tow car, they are by no means essential.

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2018 #156

    To compare directly  Justus2, you should include only those costs that are included in a site fee, so that would be council tax, water and waste, and fuel costs.

    Even on a Club seasonal pitch you have to pay for your own phone, broadband, insurance and repairs.

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #158

    I think its true to say that this is an open forum so when Malcolm started telling folk about his personal lifestyle, finances/level of debt, Mrs M visa etc.etc. he did so in the full knowledge that those subjects would be discussed.  I think most of us on here are concerned with the amount of personal information he posts. 

    I also think the vast majority of posts have been delivered with dignity

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2018 #159

    I think MM is just a having game with us and enjoys it. I see nothing wrong in playing the game as long as nobody is hurt by it. That's how I see it cool

  • SELL
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    edited March 2018 #160

    Either way I would assume that the licence would need to be in his name but at a guess would say that's not the case.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #161

    I see no reason to be overly  concerned with the amount of personal information he posts. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #162

    He’s certainly having a game, Milo, but some don’t see it that way and seem to like nothing better than to follow him around in order to tell him how he should live his life.

    Every new thread that’s started gives Malc another platform on which to play his game and provides more opportunity for those who wish to point out the error of his ways. 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #163

    Did you mean went up in value by 13 times or did you miss a nought?

     

  • Whittakerr
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    edited March 2018 #164

    If a nought was missed off and the house was bought for £270,000 with some of the redundancy money that would have been one hell of a redundancy pay-out.coolcool

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2018 #165

    The figures are correctwink

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #166

    You certainly did well there then

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2018 #167

    We paid £19,500 for ours in 1979. They sell between £725,000 & £ 750, 000 now. although one sold for £825,000 two years agosurprised

    Thing is, it's not real money as it where live and still love living here. My Son will be well sorted in the future though which is a comforting thought. smile

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #168

    Life is a lottery isn't it? Some will see all their hard earned assets used up in care home fees others will be able to pass wealth on. The double whammy at present is for those who can pay care home fees subsidising those that cant. frown

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2018 #169

    I think hard work also counts for a lot as well as luck, we both worked very hard and made lots of sacrifices to be where we are now. this also enabled us to buy another smaller property some 12 years back which we have been able to gift to our Son and Daughter in law to give them a start in life.   

    Not the same culture now from what I see frown

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited March 2018 #170

    It hasn't thawed out yet and will probably continue like this until Saturday when temperatures might start to edge just above freezing during the day. We're just glad of our onboard tank that is keeping the water flowing through our caravan taps. Incidentally, house drains can get blocked too! So it's not necessarily always any better in a house.

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2018 #171

    I was referring to your Aquaroll!

    First you said the water in it was frozen, then you said it was empty, and you  could use it to fetch more water.

    So I was saying it is fortunate it has thawed out.

    Bit of a pain that your drains are still frozen though, not something that happens in our house as it is very well insulated and the drains are too far underground for the frost to affect them.

    Some places in Norway, where it can get down below -30 sometimes, have that problem, the trick is to leave the hot water tap trickling overnight, or these days to install trace heating.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited March 2018 #172

    It was not frozen solid, Kj. It was only partially frozen so that water from the Aquaroll wouldn't come into the tap. So my wife brought hot water from the site dishwashing area hot water tap and used hot water around the outside to melt the ice sufficiently so that it could be emptied. Then she filled it with fresh water and used the internal caravan pump to fill the internal tank.

  • Swifty2018
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    edited March 2018 #173

     She did this, she did that. surprised

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2018 #174

    As long as she does this on a regular basis Malc, it should be fine 👍👍 Tell her to wrap up though, its cold out there.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #175

    So my wife brought hot water from the site dishwashing area hot water tap and used hot water around the outside to melt the ice sufficiently so that it could be emptied. Then she filled it with fresh water and used the internal caravan pump to fill the internal tank.

     

    It wouldn't sit well with me but having met Mr and Mrs M it certainly doesn't surprise me 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #176

    Did you no suggest that she took the toilet cassette to empty to save a trip later? 

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2018 #177

     

    "So my wife brought hot water from the site dishwashing area"

    I didn't think you were allowed to empty it in the dish washing area surprised

    coolcoolcool

  • JollyKernow
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    edited March 2018 #178

    So, it's day two of being in the house. Nice and warm (glad the tenant is paying!) Guess what, I must be very different to most folk as I can't wait to get out of here and back on the road in the van. Cornwall is callingwink 

    Jk

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #179

    We are off in the van next Thursday, just love it

    Haven't managed to clean the outside of the van after the last trip.  The towing cover is still on so that will save us a joblaughing

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #180

    I should wait for the snow to clear from down here first, JK. smile

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited March 2018 #181

    She didn't empty it in the dishwashing area. She brought hot water over to the caravan in a water container to pour over the Aquaroll that was next to our caravan.