If every MH was built like this!!!!

MichaelT
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edited February 2018 in Motorhomes #1

I know a lot of manufacturers use CNC milling and other techniques used here but wow, not mass production but not cottage industry either.  All I need is a lottery win smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE925f_Pa6A

 

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #2

      Why wait for lottery win?, do what seems a growing trend and use your pension pot or equity release to finance itsurprised

  • MichaelT
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    edited February 2018 #3

    If either were large enough I might be tempted

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2018 #4

    I think it comes into the same category as drooling over Ferraris, Mclarens and Pagani Zondas. Just a pipe dream.

  • brue
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    edited February 2018 #5

    Not on my wish list. Couldn't get it up our drive way. wink

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2018 #6

    no problem on our drive....i could even put the 500 in the garagewink

    seriously, a wonderful piece of kit but for most (especially here in the uk) a tad impractical.....

    however, six months touring Spain with a car in the back.....ok, if i had too...smile

    ....and gets over the 'A-frame' issue, whats not to like..?

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited February 2018 #7

    Thanks for the link Michael - Alan has some great videos on all aspects of Motorhomes and travelling - well worth a look at his Youtube Channel.

    Again, thanks.

    I've Subscribed - will you ?

  • MichaelT
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    edited February 2018 #8

    Already subscribed, it would be interesting if he could visit lots of other factories (Euro & UK) so we could compare processes.  I know these are high end vans built to order and one of those lottery win type things but it would be interesting to see some main stream factories such as Hymer, SWIFT etc.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2018 #9

    I think we tend to look at these RV like vehicles from our own experiences and our own ways of enjoying this passtime of ours. Wherever we go we see coaches and tour busses of equal if not bigger sizes carting holiday makers and tourists to the far flung corners of our fair land. Now with that garage and a car on board all the owners need to do is plan sites which are able to accomadate them. I reckon those that buy them go on tour for many weeks if not many months both here and elsewhere on our continent. It's clear that some don't understand the motorhoming way, maybe some of us don't understand RVing. Putting aside the money and the need for finding pitches big enough, they are no bigger than the largest twin axel caravans and tow car combinations, maybe these RVs are more akin to caravanning.

  • triky auto
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    edited February 2018 #10

    cool Very good to see how the competition build their product too.I toured the "Concorde" factory recently ,which is also nearby to 'Morello'  in Bavaria ,an experience to see how the vehicles are put together.(the "Morello" operation was started by two of the directors leaving Concorde with all their experience ) To see the dedication and skills that go into making top end R.Vs ,gives you a lot of confidence in your own vehicle too And with my "Smart" in the back,,added versatility for touring ..laughing Love my "Concorde Charisma" laughing

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2018 #11

    Well I am surprised, Triky, given your 'name' I would had bet you had either a Goldwing trike or a Reliant Robin in the back!wink 

  • MichaelT
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    edited February 2018 #12

    Well it was just nice to see the film of my van in production as I couldn't make it to the factory myselfwink

  • triky auto
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    edited February 2018 #13

    wink No mickysf,,four wheels or more for me ,with modern comfort and technology !!

  • Qashqai66
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    edited February 2018 #14

    I find it amusing to see the information about these vast motorhomes.  On the other hand I cannot quite see the attraction.  Our choice is for the smallest motorhome we can manage with as we love going to out of the way quiet camp sites.  A motorhome the size of a bus would be a contradiction in terms for us.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #15

    I remember some years ago at Clumber Park there were two English couples each with an American RV the size of large coaches,(one a coach driver)and were on an extended UK tour on route to Scotland ,it was quite interesting talking to them and the "problems" they were having working out routes to the sites they had booked,as they wanted to see all the places but were having difficulty with "friendly" roads

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2018 #16

    i think a lot of the interest in the video was not specifically to do with the (large) size of the vehicles (a corollary of very rich customer base who spend months at a time in one of these...?) rather the enormous attention to detail in 'how can we make this product better'...

    Three heating systems, three electrical systems, original Iveco dashboard and seats moved and changed (at huge expense, no doubt) to make the cab more 'inclusive', every tiny cold bridge engineered out during the production process, even the RHD versions sporting a fully 'mirrored' layout and even driven down the production line backwards....

    just an amazing education in 'how it should be done'....

    ok, they're far too big for many, but for the few who want the best, the Production process just has to inspire confidence....

    as Michael said in the OP.....'if only........'smile

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2018 #17

    Not withstanding the limitations described these motorhomes may be able to go to many places that towed caravans can not. They will go to all the places that larger delivery truck will go.  And with a car on board they can then explore even further.

    If only? Well not for us mind, we're looking forward to downsizing. However, it's quality that counts for us. Having had American RVs whilst in Canada I can tell you that quality was not the best. These continental motorhomes ouse quality!

  • hitchglitch
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    edited February 2018 #18

    Well it’s a home and it has a motor but apart from that it bears no relation to what people would call a Motorhome. Interesting to look inside I guess and perhaps an alternative to a house if you like to move around but not exactly a touring vehicle is it?

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2018 #19

    but the smallest Morelo (actually called the Home) is, at 7.4m, a lot smaller than (say) the largest AS, and nearly a metre and a half shorter than the longest Swifts and ATs....and the same as our previous Carthago.

    so, at that length certainly manageable....but you wont get the Smart in the back at that size...

    but as i said earlier....isnt the video about what real quality and build integrity is about rather than the fact that Morelo generally builds big vans....yes. theyre big, but the techniques, processes and materials can be used on smaller vans....by any manufacturer who wants to make real quality vans...

    ....but it costs big bucks to be as good as this, hence the big ticket prices, they probably dont get their money back on the smaller models...at only €140k basic price...rather than the €300k (and plenty more) for a top liner model.

    i queued at the NEC a couple of years back to see the first Empire Liner in the UK.....i think it was seven or eight steps up to the 'ground floor'...

    the guy on the stand said they had taken 6 firm orders that week.....he couldnt stop smiling.....

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2018 #20

    The majority of us shop at Tesco rather than Harrods and get the commensurate level of quality. It's the same with Caravans and MHomes.

  • brue
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    edited February 2018 #21

    I couldn't see many superior manufacturing processes going on,  just bigger vehicles and prices. 

  • MichaelT
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    edited February 2018 #22

    Come on Brue look again.  They ran the Alde heating around and under the front windscreen, wiring looms and water pipes all neat and tidy, no water running own the side creating black marks, sound proofing with no gaps around engine bay, all the furniture sets could stand alone without being screwed/fixed to anything, huge water tanks you have a wash function with to clean out the insides, you can dump over 300l of waste water in less than a minute, glass instead of plastic windows in places, cab floor raised on metal pedestal to create a flat environment and heated floors, the roof bonded then covered with foil tape for waterproofing plus more.

    As BB says it was not about the size of the vehicle and for many of us these are not practical nor will most of us ever be able to afford the Ferrari to put in the garage let alone the Empire Liner itself, its more about the attention to detail and thought/design that has gone into the product to make it.  Its like comparing a Rolls Royce to say a Montego, both will get you from A to B even the Mondeo will be reasonably comfortable but he RR will be a better hand built quality and finish, something I think we would all like to have (maybe not to such extremes) in our more run of the mill Mondeo type MH's and Caravans?

  • brue
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    edited February 2018 #23

    Previous involvement in manufacturing makes me look at all sorts of things, I did check out a few other M/H production web sites first. smile

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #24

    You pays your money ,as is saidwink