Time& Speed of linking to CT

Kontikiboy
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edited January 2018 in How to use Club Together #1

FOR ROWENA:

Hi Rowena, can you please ask the CC web team if they have considered moving CT out of the CC domain and setting up a separate CT domain, to improve access and use?     This would remove many layers of linking which is making this site so tardy.    They are clearly not having any success in finding a solution to the current speed/access problem.

BillC

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  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited January 2018 #2

    I though they had. Isn't it called Facebook.😇

  • IanTG
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    edited January 2018 #3

    Got to say, I have no problem with speed. It’s pretty similar to every other site (and there are many) I use. I’m with Virgin and regularly get a download speed of over 70mbps. Just tested whilst writing this, and it’s 77.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #4

    I have a much lower speed, and maybe because of that, I find this site the slowest of any that I use.

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,856 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2018 #5

    I have a high speed fibre connection and I often find access to the forum painfully slow. Interestingly it seems only to be the forum and not the main booking site.

    The OP may or may not be aware that several of us have called for Club Together to be run as a separate entity using off the shelf specialist forum software. The reason for not doing so was that the Club wanted an integrated website. However that thought has surely been completely blown out the water by the adoption of the likes of Facebook as a key point for member contact?

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2018 #6

    +1  and  +1

  • dmiller555
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    edited January 2018 #7

    I too have a high speed internet connection and can confirm that this forum is the slowest to link to of any site I use. Coupled to the fact that I also have to sign in each time makes it a chore to use. 

    I have looked at the FB account and it is seriously under used as far as I can see and therefore not worth bothering with.

    We do need proper software for this forum, there is no valid excuse for not providing it. 

    Practical Caravan use commercial software for their forum and that works as it should.

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited January 2018 #8

    Yes this is the slowest of all forums I have come across. Of course as we all know the forum is based on a flawed idea.  Bolting the in house produced forum software  on to the main site was never going to work properly. 

    I can see this forum closing down in favour of the CMC facebook alternative for two reasons. 1 - It would cost far too much money to set up a proper commercial forum just for about 20 to 30  regular contributers and 2 - The CMC Facebook alternative runs quite seamlessly without any technical input from the CMC IT dept.

    K smile

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited January 2018 #9

    At the end of the day ,I would rather the club spend money on the site network than a forum that only a small percentage of the membership use....................

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #10

    Sometimes it's slow, sometimes not, but it does have a character of it's own not found on off the shelf sites. smile

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited January 2018 #11

    But when compared to the £1.4 million and rising spent on a "rebrand?"undecided

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited January 2018 #12

    We are now on a very fast feed and the CT pages take considerably longer than other sites. It does depend on time of day, first thing it is often a lot quicker. Currently the discussion page is taking about 10 seconds just to refresh. As compared to about 2 seconds for other websites with much more information.

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,856 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2018 #13

    Interestingly just tried to ping www.caravanclub.co.uk and it failed four times as it timed out!!! Anyone else like to have a go to to make sure it's not my connection?

    David

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2018 #14

    HD

    I somehow doubt it would cost as much as the current Club Together once it was all set up. It seems to me that we currently have the situation where IT have to spend hours trying to keep the ship afloat plus what they are spending on manning the Facebook page?

    David

  • Justus2
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    edited January 2018 #15

    I had a go :  ping www.caravanclub.co.uk   timed out

                         ping www.bbc.co.uk   28ms

                        

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2018 #16

    just tried it and it went straight to that page ,no problems

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #17

    At the moment we're running at 3.87 mb/s download so as you can imagine if it's slow it's very, very slow..... I have got used to slow. Fast is something I might be able to live with some day.  smile wink

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #18

    Ping results (when checking our speeds) ...752 ms.....cry

  • Kontikiboy
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    edited January 2018 #19

    Also For Rowena - where are you?

    I don't use any Social Media whatsoever!      I wonder how many other users of CT don't use Facebook etc.      Facebook is not the answer.

    For the others who responded saying they have no problem with the performance and speed, you are kidding yourself.    The issue with the CC/CT web site is fundamental design flaw and no matter how much bandwidth you have it will not drill down through the layers of code used in the design any quicker.    As DK said above, it is not the main site that is at fault, but I think that could be a lot better as well, it is all the bolt on packages and the method used to bolt on; for instance, CT, Ferry Bookings, Red Pennant, Classified Ads and more.....

    BillC

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2018 #20

    If I understand things correctly Club Together and Facebook have two completely different functions. Club Together is for member initiated discussions where as Facebook is just for asking questions and commenting. We do sometimes take down posts and discussions on here but it is pretty rare but on Facebook the user contributed posts are very strictly monitored and often removed so the two are not the same. Just concerns me that so much in the way of resources is being put into Facebook whilst we languish here.

    David

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #21

    Although resources are being put into FB general things are replicated on here, eg sites promotions and photo requests and there's not a lot left to make it particularly interesting. It's just the response levels are high and a feel good factor is involved. Add in lots of FB likes and it just rolls along in a more predictable way.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2018 #22

    Facebook is the spawn of the devil. It's not a "proper" discussion forum.

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #23

    Well at least the club has provided us with a choice. smile

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2018 #24

    I don't see why, when this forum is wound up. that those few regular posters cannot use the CMC facebook application. After all, unlike other Forums, there are never any deep and meaningful discussions seen on here anyway. 

    K wink.  

  • dmiller555
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    edited January 2018 #25

    I've had another look at the club's Facebook page and it doesn't seem to be used for much other than adverts from HO.

    Certainly no deep and meaningful discussions as here.

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #26

    With reference to the OP, FB works at speed, with CT you have to wait for the pearls of wisdom to drop slowly into your field of vision.... wink

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #27

    Running v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y for me just now, having to log in and log out to get anywhere.

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2018 #29

    How can you tell how much the Facebook page is used? From what I have seen they only show a selection of posts made by visitors as they are regularly pruned!!! Can you become a member of the Facebook page and if so how?

    David

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #30

    All I can see on FB (accessed via OH's membership) is the number of likes and followers under "community." But what does that really mean?

  • JayEss
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    edited January 2018 #31

    It's followed by over 56k Facebook users. That means that posts on the Facebook page will show up in the timeline of 56k people. They may not interact any further with that particular post. 

    It's a 'page' rather than a 'group'. There tends to be slightly less engagement on pages than there is within a group. The club monitors FB very closely as well 

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