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  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited January 2018 #1202

    Nearest would be Bunree. Is that about 25 miles? 

    29 miles by road. 

  • Yertiz
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    edited January 2018 #1203

    There's a lot of that about, pointless really, can't help some people.undecided

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2018 #1204

    Hmm, for us, Bunree would not qualify as a site for Oban!

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2018 #1205

    The other club have a site at Oban, that could be interesting.  Must check exactly where it is.

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2018 #1206

    Seems it is 13 miles north of Oban, further north than Ledaig but better than Bunree.

    The so called positions of some of these sites is beginning to rival Ryanair and their airport names!

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1207

    I doubt if the pub would permit that. Many pubs don't like you to go in there to use their toilet unless you buy a drink.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1208

    Why, Mr. Route? My wife seems to enjoy it in there! It's warm, there's comfortable seating, toilets, entertainment and people to chat to. It's surely better than hanging around outside in the cold for five hours! Also, it's the closest pub to where I work so that she can get back to the car quickly when it's time to go home.

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2018 #1209

    but you will be quite happy to use a car dealer for free electric for your EV and not buy anything wink

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1210

    Yes because they offer that as part of the deal for buying an electric car! You forget that they're getting £21,500 from me as their customer for purchasing a brand new electric car from them in the first place. They're also looking for future business as they imagine that eventually I will want to change to a newer version and if I'm there, I can be persuaded!

  • Yertiz
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    edited January 2018 #1211

    Not quite £21,500 eh?

    You keep reminding us that the government are paying £4,500 so your contribution is £17,000 or is this wrong? wink

    It's that magic calculator of yours again Malc, needs new batteries!! wink

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1212

    Whether it's the government or me or both that pay is irrelevant. It's my decision to buy that gets them the £21,500 money!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2018 #1213

    The savings of £2500 on fuel is offset by the capital repayments on the car as well, so the net gain of the EV is zero and also with a clapped out battery at the end of the repayment period, so the residual value of the vehicle is doubtful.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1214

    I will probably change for a newer more technologically improved model before it gets to that stage, CY! Don't forget, you don't have to make the £5000 balloon payment at the end. You have the option to trade it in for a new model with a new finance agreement.

  • Yertiz
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    edited January 2018 #1215

    But YOU are paying £17,000 unless you've taken out a loan for the total amount? yell

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1216

    That's irrelevant, Yertiz. The dealer gets £21500 total money which makes me a worthwhile customer to them! Enough money to make it worth their while to give me a free fast charge because it makes me go there and visit them and see all the latest models they have on display and be looking to change for a newer model eventually.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #1217

    No idea about that or whether there is an ownership option at the end of term. Might also be a 7,000 mile cap and excess mileage charges. Who knows as many offers from Smart are set like that

  • Yertiz
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    edited January 2018 #1218

    "You forget that they're getting £21,500 from me"

    Which bit is irrelevant in that statement then?

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1219

    No. The salesman knows from the mileage of the existing Smart that I do 12,000 miles a year and the finance agreement is based on that.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1220

    They get £21,500 for the successful sale of the Smart Electric regardless of who pays. That is what is relevant to them and their business!

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2018 #1221

    The finance agreement will also have a minimum guaranteed value, which will be used if you do not make the final payment. This is based on condition and mileage. Normally less than 12,000. If it is not in good condition or over the mileage the value will be reduced. So if you give the car back or trade it in you will be required to pay the difference between the guaranteed value and the final payment.

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2018 #1222

    You do realise that that is exactly what the dealer intends?

     First they hook you, then they reel you in, and very quickly you are trapped into starting a new PCP every 4 or whatever years for the same make of car.

    Either that or you have to find the £5k or just hand back the car and walk away

  • Yertiz
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    edited January 2018 #1223

    Malc, you're missing my point, you referred to you.

    I know the dealer gets £21,500 but you are paying £17,500, end of.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #1224

    Yes but that suits my circumstances, Kj. If after four years I retire from delivery driving, I can simply hand the car back and walk away and just keep the towcar.

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2018 #1225

    But if you need to keep working to supplement your pension.....what then?

    I do hope you have some sort of back up plan!

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited January 2018 #1226

    Hi everyone, there's a good new discussion started on EV here looking at the pros and cons. A polite reminder that this discussion is going a little bit off topic in that the recent conversation regarding EVs seems like it has a point rather than being pointless! wink 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #1227

    Seems pretty pointless at present to me Ro smile

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2018 #1228

    From where I'm sitting it appears to be a vehicle with insufficient range for the task in hand that cannot be afforded and is likely to be of minimal value at the end of the exercise. As I read elsewhere a day or so ago "un imbécile et son argent sont bientôt séparés" so ultimately pointless.

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2018 #1229

    Read in the paper this morning. Lidl are trialing naked 😱onions in some of their stores. The natural packaging has been removed and the plastic variety added. Plus the price has been doubled. So not terribly good for your pocket or the environment.

    Also they are sold in twos, so if you are only going to use one, more packaging may be required to stop the other stinking out the fridge.

    Seems fairly pointless to me. How long does it take to peel an onion anyway? The time saving is massive.😉

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #1230

    This morning I'll go to a market stall and buy some Seville oranges for marmalade, no packaging on the stall. wink

  • cariadon
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    edited January 2018 #1231

    It's pointless blaming the consumer for plastic waste, even charging extra for coffee cups, when in fact it's the supermarkets and manufacturer are the ones to blame. Why should a vegetable or fruit with an inedible skin be covered in plastic, but when you ask them why they blame the consumer.

    At least in our fruit and veg shop all the produce are natural.

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