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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2017 #62

    So someone who wants to be sure of four bookings for a tour in September, and two at Christmas / New Year, would not be able to book anything else all year.🤔

    I think the CAMC might well loose business to other providers.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #63

    If you said 6 bookings at the same site I might agree. smile

    Some folk require 10 bookings for their first trip. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2017 #64

    but wouldn't that advantage those with caravans and disadvantage those with MHs, if as the club says they are used in different ways. 

    A MH could (more easily) move from one site to the next in a tour and easily use up 6 sites in a week or in a longer trip away, so book six for a trip in June on booking day then that MHer couldn't book their trip away in September till after June?  

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2017 #65

    Why can't some members realise that they won't always get what they want and just have a couple of options ,and there is a world outside of the CC

    Sainsbury's had sold out of a product I wanted the other day ,but did I go on their website and suggest they change their selling ways??.....No ,I bought something else that was an alternative.

  • ForestR
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    edited December 2017 #66

    Everyone obviously wants a bookings system that is perfect for them which will of course mean it does not suit someone else no matter what it is changed to.

    I used to spend a lot of time on booking day trying book Rowntree Park for late November or early December but realised a couple of years ago there were other alternatives much easier to book so we have just come home from a good week at Chester instead. We now go to York in February and had no problem booking in September for next year.

    Since we don't do bank holidays on club sites and we have made this change I don't need to make any bookings until later in the day although I will still book our main holidays that day. If I cannot get a particular site for a tour I will just book a C& CC site in that area instead or go commercial.

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  • legacyman
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    edited December 2017 #68

    Sorry if it's a stupid question but just trying to plan something for March 2018 and I can't see what dates the various (seasonal) sites open in 2018. They only show 2017 open dates -  many of the ones I'm looking at opened 17 March or 23 March this year but what will it be next year? Am I missing something or do I have to wait for D day to actually review seasonal opening dates? Thanks.

  • Metheven
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    edited December 2017 #69

    Is <THIS> what you are looking for, it is a pdf file

  • legacyman
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    edited December 2017 #70

    Thank you very much Metheven - exactly what I needed !

  • ABM
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    edited December 2017 #71

    Not  too  sure  I'd  trust  that  Legacyman  --  not  a  single  fotograph  showing  the  falling  rain  that  must  be  around  to  have  made  everywhere  so  very  green  !surprisedinnocentcool

  • catherinef
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    edited December 2017 #72

    Can't see in the 2018 supplement the date at which you can book for 2018?

    I've just tried to book a site for December 18, the site is definitely open but it says I can't book as the departure date is after March 18.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2017 #73

    ???? It's still 2017 do you mean this year bookings for after March next cannot be booked untill next wednesday

  • catherinef
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    edited December 2017 #74

    Yes.

    I was seeing if it was possible to book for December 2018, but it isn't.  So I just wanted to ask what date bookings open for 2018 in the light of them already publishing the supplement.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2017 #75

    The "frenzy" for 2018 bookings in some peoples thoughts ,the "honey pot" sites starts at 0800 on wed this weekwink

    Ps you can start getting your fast fingers warmed up from 0700surprised

  • peedee
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    edited December 2017 #76

    Catherinef, I suggest your read >this<, it tells you everything you need to know.

    peedee

  • catherinef
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    edited December 2017 #77

    Thanks Peedee.  You would have thought they would have put it in the supplement?

  • mbee1
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    edited December 2017 #78

    I've suggested this before.  Members should be allowed a number of nights booked - the amount open to discussion - but let's say 20 nights.  Once you've used your first night (or nights) you can then start booking more.  This would need to include paying a deposit as someone might book 7 nights at the beginning of the season with no intention of using it, cancel it  then start booking more nights that they would use.

    Members should have a CAMC account.  When they book, a 20% (say) deposit is paid that becomes a credit on their account.  Once you check in that deposit is used against your fee.  If you cancel at least 2 weeks (say) before your booking you can use the credit against a future booking.  If you cancel less than 2 weeks before it is forfeited unless there were unforseen circumstances, for example, a death or serious illness vouched for by a Doctor's note.  

    This isn't technical rocket science before the computer illiterates among members start sayng it isn't possible.  it is! 

    No need for frenzy day!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited December 2017 #79

    mbee, with your suggestion of a 20 night maximum booking how are the likes of ET & myself going to book a tour which can be anything up to 10 weeks at a time in my case? Not that it bothers me at the moment because we use CLs for the majority of our trips, but we may want to use CC's in the future, for a similar type of trip.

  • mbee1
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    edited December 2017 #80

    Sorry Nellie but it wouldn’t help you. It would help, however, members who aren’t retired who can only take a few days off at a time. Like someone else has said no one system will suit everyone. It’s a matter of being “fair” which the current system of booking isn’t. 

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2017 #81

    It would certainly free up spaces. If any provider, that charged a membership fee, had such a policy, I simply would not use them. I don't think I would be alone.

  • mbee1
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    edited December 2017 #82

    I don’t understand the problem. It’s the leisure industry and deposits are the norm which are deducted from the balance you pay. If you don’t turn up or cancel within a specified period of time it’s forfeited. Personally I can’t see a problem. Just like any other holiday. 

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #83

    Simple fact is that having no deposits and the ability to make some changes makes the CC sites even more desirable to members who use them. The CC gave up on deposits simply because they decided that they were not advantageous to the club. 

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #84

     days Members should be allowed a number of nights booked - the amount open to discussion - but let's say 20 nights. 

    20 nights would not cover my first trip and is of little use. 

     

    It would help, however, members who aren’t retired who can only take a few days off at a time. Like someone else has said no one system will suit everyone. It’s a matter of being “fair” which the current system of booking isn’t.

    When I had children and was working I would have wanted 9 days Easter, 9 days half term. Probably 25 days over August Hols and 7 days or so at October plus numerous weekends. 

  • mbee1
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    edited December 2017 #85

    But 20 nights (and that was only a suggestion but it could be 25, 30 or whatever) would cover most members who are working and give them a head start.  I get 26 days holiday plus bank holidays plus my hours are reasonably flexible but it is still difficult to get a long weekend if it isn't booked early which isn't always practical.

    I have the greatest of respect for retired members and look forward to ten years time when, hopefully, that will be me but whenever we've been away for a long weekend or a Friday to Sunday at our nearest sites the vast majority of members on site are elderly and, on that basis, are likely to be retired which gives little scope for working members to get a pitch especially at the last minute. 

    Another idea would be to offer more midweek discounts especially off season - again something quite prominent in the leisure industry.  This could well generate additional income as I suspect pitches at weekend would still be largely taken but members who don't work would take advantage of lower prices midweek.

  • Spriddler
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    edited December 2017 #86

    Don't panic, but I hear that Salad Cream is being discontinued.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2017 #87

    The next major panic after frenzy day ,will be that the majority shops will be closed on Christmas Daysurprised

  • Navigateur
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    edited December 2017 #88

    Will all the other Club head office functions (apart from the canteen) be shut down again to support the frenzey?

    See you all again on CT third week in December!

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2017 #89

    I haven't even decided where we are going surprised

    And I've only got 2 days leftundecided

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2017 #90

    We have some places next year we know we are heading for but are sure we will get the dates we need without needing to book this week, and one is a "hot spot"surprised

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2017 #91

    but whenever we've been away for a long weekend or a Friday to Sunday at our nearest sites the vast majority of members on site are elderly and, on that basis, are likely to be retired which gives little scope for working members to get a pitch especially at the last minute.

    That would certainly be true of a honeypot site like Chatsworth, but not for the majority, except bank holidays. Whenever I have looked, there always seems to be weekend availability up to two weeks before at the majority of sites. If you mean more last minute than that, then I am afraid that is always going to be the case, whatever booking system you come up with.