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  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited November 2017 #32

    Sounds great et, but not like any site we've ever encountered in Cornwall! Care to name it? I'm sure they'd be grateful for the publicity! innocent

  • compass362
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    edited November 2017 #33

    It seems that the message from previous threads / posts regarding members arriving at sites before the appropriate time isn't working or is just being ignored .

    Wardens are clearly cracking down on arrival time ...its part of their job to ensure the site is run efficiently & safely for everyone .

    Its our responsibility as members to assist where we can , if getting there at the stated arrival time  & not before is part of the running of the site , then so be it .

    That's what member focus should be about .👍

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #34

    We had to be away from a commercial site in Norfolk by 1100hrs last week and the next site cc was less than half hour journey away,we contacted the cc site and was advised that as we had been good enough to contact them and advise of situation then we would be very welcome, when we arrived(at 1128hrs)were booked in,even though we said we would wait until 1200hrs,(this site is one that is trying a pm cleaning of facilities) 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2017 #35

    I'd love to know where all these lay-bys, suitable for 40 odd feet of car & caravan are to be found. I can't even think of any locally, let alone in a strange area. When a site is half empty, it's just an officious warden that turns members away till the stroke of 12

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #36

    That is not always the case as sites with barriers, when only one couple are on duty,they are normally tied up with facilities cleaning up until about 1200hrs 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #37

    They can be scarce on some routes. If it looks like I will be too early I look for a layby in the last 20 miles on approach. 

    My satnav usually gives me a good estimate. I have arrived early twice that I can recall. That excludes when I have been told that I can arrive early when I have requested on a few occasions.

    On one occasion I put the wrong addy into satnav and arrived 15 mins early at Tredeager House. Decided that wide access with plenty of places to pull over if necessary.

    The other occasion was travelling from Clumber Park to Hebden Bridge when I was ignoring satnav rather than giving it a multitude of way points to get the route that I wanted. I was 10 mins early. 

    Usually no more than 5 mins which I consider acceptable but more often about 12.10pm. 

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #38

    Lay-bys are more often these days filled with HGVs on their "breaks"or eastern european hgvs over nighting? or with snack bars and customers

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited November 2017 #39

    To the OP - if possible go abroad.

    Very few rules and regulations, no pegs or park this or that way round, probably more sunshine, arrive whenever you feel like turning up and also feel appreciated of your custom.

    We do - as often as possible.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2017 #40

    Except if they are closed for lunch, pretty common occurrence outside of France. Ok no problem waiting at the gate but you might have a two hour wait before they reopenundecided Makes the CMC site opening times look positively liberal!!!

    David

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  • huskydog
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    edited November 2017 #42

    So, the question is ,should the CC get rid of the rules and have one big free for all !!!!!surprised

    Because without rules where would we be?............Germanywink

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #43

    Did we ever find out what site this "sending away" wasundecided

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2017 #44

    And yet how often recently have we read praise lavished on C&CC site managers for sticking rigidly to the 1pm arrival time?

    Personally I'd like to see a more flexible arrival/departure system on club sites with no access problems, but we have what we have. The OP here was, for whatever reason, in the wrong and I can't see any justification for complaints against the wardens. 

    I have to smile when I read accounts of unnamed non club sites having a "turn up when you feel like it" policy because I've yet to come across any that do (some, but not many CLs excepted). That's UK Sites I'm talking about - this is the UK section, isn't it? wink

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #45

    I have to smile when I read accounts of unnamed non club sites having a "turn up when you feel like it" policy because I've yet to come across any that do (some, but not many CLs excepted).

    I have only used one CL in the last 10 years. There are definitely some that I would use. However when I used that CL I asked about arrival times and it was a strict 12pm. 

    That was sensible and understandable. The entrance road is tree lined and two outfits would not pass.  Also the owner is out at work and so has no idea whether outfits have left earlier than 12pm or not.

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2017 #46

    At Morros Leisure last week we were told " turn up when you are ready"> No problem with access so why not? Another reason why we find commercials a better option than CC. particularly when sites are mainly empty.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #47

    You spoke with them and they said anytime. It is possible to agree a time on club sites sometimes. The important thing is to ask as with any site

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2017 #48

    I don't understand, we are made aware of the earliest arrival time so if you tip up early surely you can expect a possible issue or challenge awaits you. And more than possibly the staff too!! Why gripe? 

    The other thing is that the C&MC is a network of many sites and not just one isolated site. We know that many sites have site specific issues which impact on arrival times etc., these are well documented elsewhere on this forum, and efforts to manage these site specific issues and challenges are thwarted by those who just 'make it up' for themselves. These instances can also impact on all the rest of us who just manage to get it right and that I guess can just make matters worse for those trying to manage things.

  • compass362
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    edited November 2017 #49

    I suppose I'm just lucky I have an HGV detail based sat nav regarding large layby information on all the UK road network  it covers most of Europe too.

    It might mean a little effort for those who aren't as blessed  what with the internet , Google earth , Google maps it's all there if you can be bothered .👍

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #50

    The large (almost empty )commercial site we were on two weeks ago was No arrivals before 1300 and All deps by 1100 on day of departure

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2017 #51

    It might mean a little effort for those who aren't as blessed  what with the internet , Google earth , Google maps it's all there if you can be bothered .

    I find I can't balance my tablet or phone on my knee very well when driving & looking for a lay-by ...... 😉

  • compass362
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    edited November 2017 #52

    Perhaps not best to then  , let's keep the roads safe .👍

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2017 #53

    I guess some will argue that they tip up early because they make allowances for issues or problems they may encounter on route. That's understandable but why don't they then make other allowances if everything goes their way instead of attempting to just get their way by ignoring those very time of arrival they were fully aware of in the first place? 

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  • mickysf
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    edited November 2017 #55

    Would that be furniture or automobile polish? undecided Even if there are, they have every right to be there, maybe they too have time constraints and demands on them like the rest of us and are doing the right thing!

  • compass362
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    edited November 2017 #56

    Ah it's a sat nav ......not radar 😇

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2017 #57

    Even if you had radar, it would depend on the Polish vans being fitted with transponders. wink

  • Navigateur
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    edited November 2017 #58

    So here is a constructive suggestion (if the Head Office mandarins are reading this and not all playing with facebook) :-

    Include in the site directions for each site in the Directory details of suitable lay-bys on the approachs. Would be a better use of the space than the "This site is suitable for - caravans!" information.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #59

    The time to pull over is not on the final approach. Need to be aware and looking up to 40 mins before your ETA. 

    Info like lay-by 1 mile from site is of no use when there are 5 outfits trying to get onto a 2 outfit lay-by. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited November 2017 #60

    A lot can happen in that 40 minutes though.  Such as starting the six hour wait on the motorway behind an accident.

    I have never gone to a site that close that I can rise at a sensible hour and get there before high noon. But if I was, I'd pop into Morrisons (other names are avaiable).

  • compass362
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    edited November 2017 #61

    +1😇