Speeding Again

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #92

    Rules are made for the guidance of wise men and the blind observation of fools

    Apologies to Douglas Bader for my paraphrasing. 

  • Kennine
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    edited October 2017 #93

    The CMC have drawn up a set of rules designed to ensure that everybody enjoys the experience of staying on their campsites and that they will be safe while there.  Anyone who is a member of the CMC have signed up to those rules. 

    We, almost daily see threads complaining that other members are being allowed to ignore the CMC on-rules they signed up to.  This is because the CMC staff on-site are not ensuring that the rules are complied with. 

    Is there any point of having rules if they are not enforced. 

    CMC head office should be seriously disturbed to read all the instances of selfish people being allowed to disregard the safety and enjoyment of fellow vanners   and take appropriate steps to recruit Warden staff who are capable and willing to confront wrong doers. 

    cool 

     

     

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  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2017 #96

    Not one comment from HQ I wonder if I was raised on fb the response from them would be the same?  

    I think like lots of club rules they are not enforced by wardens, who have plenty of other work to occupy them, including speed of their equipment 😉. I also wonder if rules were enforced whether HQ would back wardens? Why spoil their day, get abuse or whatever from a member if it' for nowt in the end and no sanction for breaking the rules?

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2017 #97

    Not one comment from HQ I wonder if I was raised on fb the response from them would be the same?

    Only one way of finding out, give it a go.

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2017 #98

    The onl time there seems to be any response from H O is if the report button is activatedundecided

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #99

    'Content has been removed.'.

    Somebody nicked me pumpkins! wink

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2017 #100

    Sad person frown, I chuckled and not the least bit offended laughing

  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2017 #101

    Oh that explains why I can't find it to show to my OH. I thought it was a bit cheeky, pun intended, and great a shame 😐.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2017 #102
  • SteveL
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    edited October 2017 #103

    Well I missed it and now feel left out.☹️

    were we not told that if something was removed an explanation would be given?

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #104
  • SteveL
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    edited October 2017 #105

    Thanks ET. Seems a bit extreme removing it.

    Especially as this thread has just about run its course.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #106

    Probably due to my comment along the lines of speeders could kiss my pumpkin Steve. Just a bit of fun.

  • harryb
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    edited October 2017 #107

    Kennine

    That is a perfect reply.

    I have just completed a letter I am about to send to HQ on this subject. If I could send you the content you would see that I have just mentioned all of what you say.

    Can I suggest that you send that post in writing to HQ. It is more condensed than mine

    Thank you to you and others who have supported this post.

     

  • Milothedog
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    edited October 2017 #108

    Or it may have been too much of a distraction for anyone speeding around a club site whilst looking at CT on their smart phone tongue-out

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2017 #109

    Well, yes, in a way I agree with you, David. I just find it odd that folk will complain about seemingly innocuous matters ( children cycling the wrong way, folk walking 3 or more dogs, flying flags, not washing their hands after using the toilet etc) and yet take something as potentially dangerous as speeding so lightly! It's a funny old world, CT,  isn't it? undecided

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2017 #110

    yes +1

    Speeding isn't like being off peg, nose in parking, or whatever things that you can live with, speeding could hurt someone and change someone's life. Yet (as on public roads) it is seen as something to joke or even brag aboutundecided

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #113

    a vehicle doing a mile or two over the limit might irritate me but isn't going to spoil my day

    Nor me David. But the ones that annoy me are those going well over without attempt not to. The ones that change up into second and even third gear in particular. 

  • Milothedog
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    edited October 2017 #114

    I think the problem lies in the sense of safety and security the person in the "metal box" has when driving. Personally I think I have a wider experience on this than most. Firstly as a motorcyclist and having been taken off twice in my life time by car drives not paying attention to the road and also in my working career as the driver of recovery vehicles attending accidents both injury only and fatalities, sadly.  Removing a vehicle from the scene of an accident and seeing the blood inside or on the cars bodywork or hair stuck on a broken windscreen makes you think.

     

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2017 #116

    OMG, speeding planes crashing on Club sites now - things really are getting out of hand. 

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2017 #117

    "Oh please" DD! wink Dogs and children more of a menace than cars or MHs travelling too fast? Really?

    When were there ever any deaths or injuries on site from any of the points I mentioned or, come to that, from any of the "thousands" of other factors you claimed were more likely to cause injury. 

    As David says above, that we all have pet hates, the point is that there is a specific rule relating to speed on site and, in my experience,  it is by far the most widely flouted site rule and needs enforcing. And incidentally,  I don't think it's restricted to CAMC sites, but that's another story all together.

  • Milothedog
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    edited October 2017 #118

    Ah, Risk.  Yes I remember all about calculating the risk factor from when I did my NEBOSH qualification. Basically if it's too expensive to eliminate, reduce it as much as possible but be  prepared to pay out compensation when something happens. frown

     

    This is going a little off topic, but as I said above I had to gain a NEBOSH certificate back in 2004, one of the tutors on the course worked as part of the H+S team on the channel tunnel. something like 9 people died when it was being constructed but because the risk assessment for the project suggested it could have been higher it was seen as a good outcome ? 

    Sorry for digressing a little smile 

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  • Milothedog
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    edited October 2017 #121

    It was the coal industry that forced a government to overhaul H+S in the UK. Remember Aberfan. 

    I don't think anyone is getting excited about anything, the OP made a valid point and has observed it first hand as have I and others. the fact that nobody has been hurt yet doesn't mean you should just ignore it. the potential for an incident is very real like it or not.