Best route from Calais to Eastern Spain

DylanThomas
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Good morning,

We will be travelling from Calais ( eurotunnel ) to south east Spain with our dogs in our motorhome in February/March next year. Can someone advise on the best route down trhough France and if there will be stopover sites open at that time of year. I have an ACSI card and "All the Aires" guide.

Thanks for your help

 

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  • young thomas
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    edited October 2017 #2

    firstly, what time is your crossing, this will dictate (to a degree) how far your first day travelling might be...

    how far/long do you want to drive a day?

    any preference in toll/non-toll.....depends on how quickly you want to get through France.

    are you happy using aires (most will be open, whereas finding sites might be (a bit) more difficult?

    where is your spanish destination?

    we went to the Almeria area in the spring and to Valencia are this autumn (both times from cherbourg) so might be able to help with this one...

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #3

    Undoubtable in February/March the best route is down the western side of France via Rouen. It is then a matter of how you cross the Pyrenees and much can depend on the weather. An answer to BB's questions should help with further advice.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #4

    PS, if you want to see how I did it in January this year, click >here<.

    peedee

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2017 #5

    Dylan, If you prefer campsites to Motorhome Aires is often said that there are very few such sites in France open in winter, But In fact UKCampsite.co.uk has a list of about 200 French campsites which are open all year round.

    So, weather permitting,  you can travel any which way you want - just bear in mind that the A75 south from Clermont Ferrand may very occasionally be closed for a day or two in midwinter because of snow, but that is highly unlikely on the February /March  dates you have given. You really have a free choice of routes. Get out the maps !

  • hitchglitch
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    edited October 2017 #6

    Assuming you are going from Calais the most used route is via Rouen and Clermont. There are three reasons for this - it minimises tolls, it avoids Paris and it is just about the shortest.

    Being contrary and because I hate the northern part of that route I would pay the tolls and go via Reims, Lyon and Montpelier on the Autoroute. It is a far better road overall and therefore probably quicker. Also, generally not impacted by weather.

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #7

    In fact the difference in most routes, certainly to the Costa Blanca, is only 20 miles with that via Rouen-Clermont Ferrand- Perpignan being the longest. I don't like the route via the Central Masif (A75) it is more expensive on fuel and more risky in the winter months. Via Reims -Lyon is definitely a no no for me.

    My trip last Jauary was 1132 miles Calais to Costa Blanca and the toll charges only came to about 23 euros.

    peedee

  • greylag
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    edited October 2017 #8

    peedee...just love the rolling map on your blog.

  • paul56
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    edited October 2017 #9

    Totally agree with you. Great web page.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited October 2017 #10

    Excellent blog and love the map! We have never been to Spain but I would worry about snow on that route although agree that it is more interesting than Reims - Lyon.

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #11

    While there is always a risk of snow in the winter, the main routes are cleared pretty quickly. At least you have you own accommodation with you and if it was really bad just stop and wait for the weather to clear. The advantage I see of my route is after a weather check while at Aire sur L'Adour you can decide what to do, carry on up to the Somport, head west to go via San Sebastion to Zaragosa or Madrid or even head east to Perpignan. The options via San Sebastion and Perpignan make the journey longer but I am not sure there are any options if you hit bad weather in the Central Masif.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #12

    My trip last Jauary was 1132 miles Calais to Costa Blanca and the toll charges only came to about 23 euros.

    I should have added that the toll charges were Class 3 of which 18 euros were incurred between Calais and Abbeville!

    peedee

  • greylag
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    edited October 2017 #13

    I wish my wife was adventurous, just go and take it as it comes.  She really likes to have everything booked up and quaranteed places to stay.  The thought of arriving and finding a site full would result in a meltdown.

    She enjoyed our trip to Croatia because someone had arranged all of the sites and planned the route for us.

    Interesting that Peedee stated that he wouldn't do a winter trip again.

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #14

    Interesting that Peedee stated that he wouldn't do a winter trip again

    Where did I say this Greylag? I am wondering in what context I said this. I would probably have gone this winter but have other things to do.

    peedee

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2017 #16

    No mobile phone? 

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #17

    It is easier if you have a motorhome, no planning at all required other than to book a crossing and possibly a destination site. With a caravan you do need to do a bit more planning to ensure you can find open sites on the way south.

    Any reservations I have had have all been about weather and availablity of pitches at the destination in the winter. Weather can be not all it is cracked up to be and the one winter trip I did without any bookings did lead to problems obtaining a pitch on some sites but I always managed to find something even if not in the most desirable location.

    I wouldn''t do another winter trip without booking a destination site for a long stay.

    peedee

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  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #19

    They don't need booking but unlike a motorhome you have to plan your days trip between those known to be open.

    The OP still hasn't come back with any further information, not that I could offer much further help.

    peedee

  • greylag
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    edited October 2017 #20

    Peedee

    I apologise, I was sure it was you who stated that, it just shows that you can't rely on memory, should always re-read something before posting.

    Still enjoyed your blog!

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #21

    You certainly cannot rely on my memory Greylag, one reason I blog. Thanks for the response and its not a problem and was not completely wrong.

    peedee

  • chasncath
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    edited October 2017 #22

    Others have dismissed the route via Reims and Lyon, perhaps for budget constrains; however, just for completeness here's a paste from an earlier thread describing our tried and tested route.

    "The weather in northern France is more or less the same as southern England. We've driven down the A26 from Calais behind a snowplough, and often in fog and frost! The autoroutes are kept open in all but the direst of conditions. The whole system is constantly monitored.

    Once you're south of Lyons, snow is seldom a problem. Crossing the Pyrenees, you may have to wait for the snowploughs to open the road; however, in 12 years that's never happened to us ( touch wood).

    We've posted this list several times on this site, but hope it's of interest to you in planning your expedition, but note that we have a motorhome which makes overnight stops simple.

    We have a set route, mainly on the Peage (our modest motorhome is ‘classe 2’).

    Here's our route from Calais:

    1. Soissons - Camping Municipal du Mail -164 miles

    2. Beaune - Camping les Bouleaux - 250 miles

    3. Nimes - Camping Domaine de la Bastide - 272 miles

    4. le Barcares - Camping Club Europa - 156 miles or Les Olivers at Le Boulou.

    5.Hospitalet de L'infante ( south of Barcelona) - Camping Cala d'Oques - 200 miles. (not in ACSI, but they give a discount to card holders)

    None of them bookable but open all year. Soissons was rumoured to have closed in winter, but ACSI and Ukcampsites both say it’s still open all year

    Head for St Quentin,Soissions, Reims,Troyes,Dijon, Lyon (Rocade Est to Marseille), then Nimes, Montpellier, Narbonne, Perpignan. Barcelona then Valencia. Needless to say, don't enter any of these cities, just use them as indications of which routes to follow."

     

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2017 #23

    And on that route sites at Lyon, Avignon and Narbonne are also among the Open All Year sites. 

  • greylag
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    edited October 2017 #24

    If my wife said 'let's give it a go', I think I would reckon it to be worthwhile, the chance to get behind the wheel of the van again.So many people relate tales of sunny winter days, away from our gloomy and cold Febuary days.

    Probably have to be content with planning our trips a little later in the year. 

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  • hitchglitch
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    edited October 2017 #26

    Never been to Spain but we go to Bagnols-sur-Cèze every year which is just North of Avignon and the route through Reims and Lyon is by far the simplest but I accept that the tollls would put some people off. Lyon is well worth a visit and there is an Indigo site on the approach which is ideally placed but if not stopping in Lyon you have the gamblers choice of going around the ring road or using the old direct route under the tunnels. Direct is good going South outside the rush hour but the ring road is a better bet going North. There are lots of choices of sites along that route.

    Several times now we have gone from Bagnols to Millau via Montpellier on the autoroute so have ended coming back on the usual recommended Calais to Spain route across the Massif-Central but in reverse. I have made no secret of our dislike of this route which really stems from the awful section between Rouen and Chartres which is overdue an autoroute. Next year when we do the same trip again we will either go via Paris (avoiding the Peripherique) or take the long detour via Le Mans. The other issue I have is that the free A75 autoroute between Clermont and Millau is not well provided with services. Unfortunately this is a feature of free Autoroutes in France. You get what you pay for.

    Why not experiment? Try a different route in each direction. More fun that way.

     

  • peedee
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    edited October 2017 #27

    It is not only tolls, Reims-Lyons is also the longest way south by about an extra 100miles.

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  • hitchglitch
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    edited October 2017 #29

    Not true. Calais - Rouen - Clermont - Barcelona via Perpignan 825 miles (which I suggest is the popular route), Calais - Reims - Lyon - Barcelona - Montpelier 869 miles and a heck of a lot quicker.

    If you are OK with the Western route and crossing the Pyrenees this may be shorter. Scenic but more challenging in winter.

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  • DylanThomas
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    edited November 2017 #31

    Hi Everyone, Sorry I haven't replied sooner, we have been to Sutton on Sea in the motorhome - great site.

    Wow, what a response! I am now lost for choice. We have been to the Dordogne via Rouen and the A20. We have also been to the South of France via Reims and Lyon. However, these have been in the summer when most campsites are open and there is no threat of snow!!

    As this is our first winter trip, following your advice, we may take the safe route via Reims and Lyon to Montpellier and Perpignan. We only tend to travel around 180 miles a day but could do more as it is winter. I forgot about the Pyrenees!! We are not afraid of heights - came over the Simplon pass in Switzerland in September - perfect weather!

    We would like to visit the Almeria, Alicante and Valencia areas of south east Spain, probably staying at each place for around two weeks. We have two small dogs so dog friendly beaches would be great. Any suggestions for campsites - and should we book?

    Regards