Dordogne in May, crowds or not?
We're in the very early stages of planning a French caravan trip next year, from the back end of April into most of May. We've heard much of the beauties of the Dordogne, but also that it's crowded with mainly English tourists in the season. No offence intended to present company, but we prefer to avoid any massed tourists, and in past French trips, with tent, we've enjoyed being well away from hearing English spoken.
Are we likely to be in time to beat the crowds then, or will it already be swarming?
And we're open to other advice on lovely places away from the crowds. We don't go for big pleasure parks, a nice friendly municipale or equivalent is more our thing.
We'd like to go far enough South to enjoy a decent chance of warmth. We're no longer great distance walkers and my wife's knee doesn't do much hill climbing any more, but we enjoy walking type scenery, and a medium length ballade.
So recommendations for entirely different French target areas in late April to mid May will be welcome, please, too.
Thanks for any help.
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We have been all over France in May and June and never found anywhere crowded other than Lake Annecy this year.
If you care to look at my blogs about our trips you will see the photos I take of various sites and how few caravans are there.
We frequently don't hear another English voice for weeks.
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I suppose you needed to avoid those sites that are in the Club's ABS service or those that advertise a lot in UK magazines, especially English owned sites. Maybe you should think about the Lot Valley rather than the Dordogne. We stayed here a few years ago, in June, which is a lovely small Dutch owned site which only had about a dozen outfits on, mainly Dutch.
I must admit that I have never used your criteria as a basis for looking for sites as we tend to decide by location rather than who our neighbours might be?
David
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We found the Dordogne to be heaving with tourists in April this year but there was wall-to-wall sunshine for three weeks in the month and that probably helped to swell the crowds.
I was also going to suggest Lot but it seems to me to be even more hilly than the Dordogne and having any kind of walking problem would be accentuated by the terrain.
Both the Lot and Dordogne are certainly well worth a visit and we intend returning within the next two year although the earlier suggestion of Croatia seems a good option.
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HH, Two things from your post... You say you like to avoid hearing English spoken - the Dordogne is not the place for that - many thousands of British people live there. And you say you like quiet municipal sites - but you will find that many of them will not yet be open in the early part of your holiday, so you may have to compromise on that.
But I am sure you will like it there - it's very pretty - just don't plan in advance too hard, don't pre book sites, and don't be afraid to move on as the mood takes you. I hope it goes well.
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In this thread others haven't mentioned the reason the Dordogne is popular with English, is that it is very 'green and pleasant' and the reason for that is that it can rain a lot there. Here is what I've posted in response to your post on another forum, copied and pasted, which does make reference to the rain:
Don't make too many plans - just go! If the weather is nice in the Dordogne then head there - crowds or not it's a lovely area and in May really shouldn't be too busy or too British - if it is move elsewhere. Further south, as suggested is the Lot, further west the Landes and the empty beaches - good for flat walking - further east the Massif Central, and even further south east the Languedoc and the Mediterranean - and in most of those you'll find few British. There are many other lovely areas - if you like wildlife and wild countryside then the Gorges du Tarn, the Cevennes, and the Ardeche areas may suit you - and walking in the river valleys is pleasant and level (though there are obviously some steep hills!)
In May you can go where you please - some sites may be almost empty (others not yet open), and you can stay if the area, the sites, and the company suit you - and if not move elsewhere.
I'm not going to suggest specific sites, anywhere, because at that time of year you can find exactly what you want, anywhere, without booking, but I'd do what your caravan is made for and tour.
Choose other areas you may like to visit, and then have a look at some campsite search websites. We use an ACSI Card so tend to use www.campingcard.co.uk to look for a lot of sites within one website. Earmark some you like the look of in several different areas, then just head in the direction of the best weather at the time of your crossing.
A word of warning, though, about the rain, it can really rain.. .. . . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. (and that's almost anywhere in France at certain times)! One year we were heading south, intending to canoe on the Dordogne. Our first day heading south had been dry and sunny. The start of day two brought rain so we set off into ever heavier rain. Crossing the Vezere river it was boiling like a dark brown torrent, carrying logs and debris . .. . . .. . .. . and we thought 'No way', so we carried on. Near Cahors we ran into floods, so found a hilltop site (thanks, ACSI) and stayed there for one night. The following morning we looked at the weather on the campsite free internet, and found that only the Languedoc was forecast for a period of sunshine. We had ten days there, then headed into the Ardeche, to stay at Bastide en Ardeche. A few days after arriving we found a rally of Dutch campers had pulled in - they'd been spending two weeks in the Dordogne, and for almost a week had been confined to their site because of flooding around the site and the area!
Last year on the way home we ran into floods at Vierzon, which got worse the further north towards our overnight stop we got - and more and more roads were closed to traffic. We were only able to get to our stopover by a series of incredible coincidences and the following morning found the one open road in the whole area (heading west) but by heading that way were able to get west and then north towards our ferry, getting there on time.
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Thanks all for all this, much to help us think here. I can see I'll be reading Jenny&John's blog - and thank you ValDa for taking time to answer my parallel query on the CTalk forum too - I should have realised there's probably a large cast of readers here who go to both places!
Croatia sounds tempting, though part of the deal is to practise the French my wife's gradually improving at U3A sessions! I tend to bash about and hope I don't murder too many tenses, but am dreadful at keeping up with the replies, whereas she's better at understanding what's said, but more tentative about speaking it. So we work as a team. Unless Croatia is big at speaking French, that's another trip for the future
Any more comments will be most welcome.
Thanks again.
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Hi, over the years have seen others seek similar to you but our experience has been that if there is a decent sites that’s because of the demand so good sites will always be popular.
We have never sought the company of other Brits but neither have we tried to avoid it and this year in the Dordogne, in June on a popular busy site, we only had one lot of Brit neighbours in sight for part of our stay.
We decided to visit based on the fact it was.so popular and our research showed it was scenic and interesting. We were not disappointed though we were on a busy site it was easy to find peace and quiet with very little effort.
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That'll be another year or two, then! "Hello", "Goodbye", "Please" and "Thankyou" is about my limit in German, which ain't really enough!
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HH, Don't let people sidetrack you or put you off the Dordogne. I still think you will like it there, and I can suggest a few small, low key French owned sites, outside the ACSI card list, away from the busy river bank, and where Brits rarely go. But that can wait until nearer the time.
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Last year, we went to the Dordogne in early May and found it very quiet. We stayed at Les Péneyrals north of Sarlat. It's a big site with statics and around 120 touring pitches, of which 4 were occupied on the 1st night we were there! All facilities were open and site owner did comment that he had more staff than guests!
The weather was distinctly mixed, on 1 day the themometer declined to rise above 11C, the same day we read that it had reached 24C on Skye! Other days it was pleasantly warm
Area is beautiful with lots of interest in pre-historic sites. English was spoken if required, but no difficulty in practising french.
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Harrrumph, we had temperatures in single figures on the mainland across from Skye this April, with wind chill making it feel like minus digits, so 11 would have been good, let alone 24!!
Maybe I should take my Herdwick hat, bought up there as defence, to France with me after all...
Thanks to all again for the continuing information, it's all most useful.0 -
That would be truly useful and helpful, thanks. Yes please. Rather than both of us forgetting, send as soon as you wish I can supply an email address if that would help.
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Camping Bouyssou at Tursac or Camping Ferme de Perdigat at Limeuil are examples of the sort of site we would make for - but they may not be to your taste at all.
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We go to the Dordogne every May and stay at Les Deux Vallees campsite in Vezac about 5 miles from Sarlat. Very central location with good road access for the whole area; a great varied choice of daily markets within a 20 mile radius. The only crowds we see are in Sarlat on a Saturday. Avoiding that crowd means you miss a fantastic market atmosphere. Definitely recommend using an ACSI card. Bon voyage.
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I'm just about to enjoy reading this, having reached it, but only when I realise the link has somehow truncated itself. It's .com, isn't it?
And the hyperlink has confusingly decided to only include half the address. Not complaining, just mentioning it in case others are trying to read it too!Thanks again
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There are crowds, and there are crowds . We like a good local market. I suppose the English parallel that we'd want to avoid might be the sort of thing they've done at Bowness on Windermere, where there's an outdoor shopping mall which just shouts that it's nothing whatever to do with local culture, just a stereotyped set of shops to pour the coach parties into, but the crowds of Chinese and other international tourists decanted off their coaches don't know that, the poor things imagine they're seeing what the Lake District is all about.
A decent French market in full swing is great fun.
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To be researched! Thanks again.
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I have just edited the original link in the post and it now opens OK. It was just the m missing from .com that was causing the problem, sometimes a problem when links are cut and pasted.
David
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.... and having read part of Jenny&John's blog, the Jura is looking desperately tempting too! .... now, how long can we stretch this trip to last, I wonder?
Last time I drove there was with my then 17 yr old daughter. The car had broken down in Italy, my wife & younger daughter were flown back to enable Liz to return to work, I drove a rentacar back carrying our more expensive gear while Europ Assistance repatriated our own vehicle. My first time with a LH drive, which we collected in Annecy, IIRC, having been ferried across from Italy. Then up along those beautiful mountain roads, with me still getting used to having a lot of car on the wrong side of me. I still admire the calm of my daughter, merely remarking at intervals "A bit close to the edge there, again, Dad."
It would be nice to try them again, in our own car this time!
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"now, how long can we stretch this trip to last, I wonder?"
If you are retired as long as it takes! I tell myself that pro rata it gets cheaper the longer that you are away. Sadly hubby always wants to come home after six weeks.
We are off to Spain for the first time in three weeks and I have taken out 66 days Red Pennant in the hope that he will agree to stay a bit longer this time.
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Not fully retired, both still taking some gigs, and since my wife plays harp for weddings, these tend to be booked w-a-y ahead, so we have to strive to keep long enough diary patches clear! You're quite right that it's worth staying longer, of course. Meanwhile have a great time in Spain.
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