Seasonal Pitches 2018
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As far as I am concerned. The club should exist to promote and facilitate touring caravanning. Seasonal pitches and for that matter Glamping pods should play no part in the business of the club. There are plenty of commercial sites that can offer this.
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I'm sure you're right, KJ.
Lordsward, I too am interested in hearing more about the Parish Council's report calling the club 'deceitful' as per Rocky's post on the previous page.
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Did have a seasonal a few years ago and it is 21 nights and 2 days before returning but ours was only used for weekends an a odd week through the season. Usually seasonals are on sites not so popular but have noticed an increase in the number of sites with seasonals, some part usually early and late season, the one we stayed on now has around 20 a year and some even have as much as 30 plus.
The club is a commercial business now so they need to generate as much income as they can.
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Not sure if this is what Lord is on about......
The Club gets a good bashing on page 4 of the minutes.......
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Thanks, TT. It's not quite what I was expecting.
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That doesn't seem to be like the minutes of the meeting I recall. That link seems to be later in having a CC member of staff apologise. Still, shabby behaviour from the Club I'm sure you'll all agree?
I'm believe I've got a copy of the Minutes I'm referring to somewhere as I wrote to the Club about it. There was a member of the council who was also a member of the CC who brought the situation to light.
The minutes I refer to where put in the town notice board and we subsequently chatted to the woman who wrote the Minutes in the library come post office. They were furious with the CC and indeed still are.
@ Redkite; you mention the club being a business now, ran for profit and not for its members. Could you please explain the business sense in not allowing 10 members to take and pay for a pitch a year in advance at the quietest time of year? This generated gross revenue for the club circa £4,700 in 2015 for this one site. In 2016 for 2017 winter, they've not made one single similar sale. A business needs a sale to be in business. You see?
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I've learnt in this discussion that the club is commercial outfit these days, supposedly there to promote the making of money over caravanning or motorhoming.
I can't see the harm in offering seasonal pitches to maximise revenue during quieter periods on sites open for most of the year.
It allows those of us still in full time work to enjoy our touring caravans all year round. Theres nothing worse than towing and then setting up in the cold, driving rain on a dark night.
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yes agree, it is guaranteed income, and you're right about the stting up. When we had one it meant not rushing on a Friday night and staying late as we wanted on a Sunday. Actually we also left very early on Monday mornings (The car would be in the car park btw)
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Indeed they do, but does it appear that the town needs the club site more than the club needs the town?
I thought the bit about businesses
in the town have always extended a very warm welcome to its members who visited the sitea little strange to say? Firstly are club members that easily recognised? and what business wouldn't extend a warm welcome to anyone?
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back into the club I would have thought?
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That is my understanding, as well. This is covered by the opening statement in the 2016 performance review. Which I totally agree with the aims of the opening statement.
The rest of the review is imho a load of superficial info graphics and spin. Still doesn't change my basic opinion The caravan club limited, trading as the caravan and motor home club, should be for touring caravanning. If there is no longer any demand for that then the organisation should wind itself up. As in no longer would have any point.
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The club appear to be disengenuous as far as dealing with local authorities go. Who can forget the debacle over the planning for housing on three sites to be closed. No discussion with members but submitted outline planning applications for housing, then reckoned that their agent (Savilles) submitted at least one application without their knowledge or words to that effect.
Off course a major campsite is around a fairly remote market town is important to the local economy. When we are out and about we are often ask where we are staying so probably the same in Hawes.
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Totally agree, seasonal pitches should not be part of a touring club, if you decide not tour book a static or buy one.
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Disagree hooker. There's nothing to stop a member who's on a seasonal pitch from taking the van off for a period and doing some touring, using other sites in the Caravan Club network,
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....but, presumably, that (now 'vacant') pitch still cant be used by an arriving 'tourer'?....so the 'seasonal pitch' which might be empty, still blocks pitches from tourers
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That is also my understanding BB. Looking at getting one next year so have been reading T&C's. If you take your van off site you are not guaranteed to get the same pitch on your return. However, they will keep a pitch for you, so if they have 10 seasonals, there will always be 10 out of commission for touring.
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I agree ET. I assume the club are doing it because they would not expect to otherwise sell those pitches. Except perhaps for the bank holiday element on some seasonals. So instead of just selling them for a few days, and perhaps a few hundred pounds, they have sold them for 8 months and £1400.
I assume the reverse of this is what has caused the OP. In that the club now feel they can make more by having the pitch in touring mode, at times of the year it used to be available for seasonal let.
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Agree with Steve and ET. Yes they are not cheap and looking at the sites the club I'm sure they have done their homework and chooses wisely for having a seasonal, They are not on every site. If you look at the list those sites are firstly are not 'honeypot' sites and secondly probably those sites that aren't full out of peak or perhaps have a lower occupancy rate than others, so why not generate some demand and income from those sites.
What's best? 10 seasonal on a site (out of 100+ perhaps) taken with assured income or those actual pitches left empty. I don't think, apart from as Steve says some BH anyone is losing out on a pitch.
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Many thanks for your post and we are sorry that this has caused you concern. I have spoken to the Regional Manager who has advised that this year at Hawes the Club took out the part seasonal pitches as the site has only just re-opened and we didn’t want to limit the availability for members to get onto the site, especially over Christmas and New Year. This is just until we can monitor what the demand will be and we will then review the decision for the following year. The Regional Manager and Site Operations team have been forwarded this discussion for their reference.
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Most cc sites that have seasonal pitches,they are normally on grass ,which by the end of the "season"are wrecked,
So who would want to be "given"one as as touring pitch if seasonal was away
And the reason some may not get the same seasonal pitch if away is because the pitch is probably under repair which is not a cheap repair
Unless Malc can say different
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In years past these pitches were overprescribed you could not always get a pitch. Making these seasonal pitches a shorter duration was always going to have an impact on uptake . In all the years we were able to get a pitch the site was never full untill after the Xmas . Was hoping club would have a change of mind but think the reduction in weeks was a ploy so they could blame lack of interest as the reason to pull these seasonal pitches.
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