Sites open all year

billiejo
billiejo Forum Participant Posts: 39
edited September 2017 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

we are sat in Cheddar club site at the moment just wondering why a site like this is not open all year. Surely it would be better for the club to open sites with hard stand and hook up to open all year even if they closed the toilet block and just had skeletons staff or even volunteers to run the sites. It seems a shame that there is not more sites open in the winter as most caravan and motor homes theses days are self sufficient and only need electricity and hard stand. 

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  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,868 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #2

    This is an often discussed subject. The problem is that it is not as straightforward as people think. Often there are restrictions in place either because of a lease condition or a planning condition so even if the Club wanted to stay open it can't. I think you also have to accept that the amount of people using caravans/motorhomes during the winter is a lot less than in Spring/Summer/Autumn so how much real demand is there beyond the 35 sites that are already open all year plus those that open until just after New Year? I am pretty sure there are more sites that the Club would like to open for longer but are restricted from doing so. The problem with sites being run by volunteers is that there are rarely enough of them to run the sites currently being looked after by volunteers.

    David

  • billiejo
    billiejo Forum Participant Posts: 39
    edited October 2017 #3

    Yes i must agree with some of what you say but it is getting more difficult to get pitches in the winter months when understandably they can't use grass pitches when it's wet. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2017 #4

    The term open all year is a bit misleading. There are in fact quite a few sites that close after Christmas for a few months, so a lot more than you think offer a bit of Winter touring. Admittedly, the SW is a poorly served area, but there are plenty of none Club options.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2017 #5

    I like you, love going away all year but I wonder if the demand is there?

  • huskydog
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    edited October 2017 #6

    We go away all year round ,and use Setthorns site in the New Forrest, and it doesn't mater what time of year it is always well used , so I think it's getting more popular....

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited October 2017 #7

    I think you're right in saying that there are not enough sites open all year, billiejo. When it gets to November, we find ourselves having to rely more on CLs and CSs in this area. The nearest club site to us that's open all year is Brighton but that's 15 miles away, the next nearest is Gatwick which is 30 miles away. Closing sites from Autumn to Spring does tend to make caravanners think of caravanning as a summer holiday pastime rather than an all year round activity, which is a pity because like you say, modern caravans are designed for all year round usage.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2017 #8

    Over the last 4 years we have been going away in January for a couple of weeks and noticed it has got busier year on year. 

    I noticed that for this winter coming that Beechwood site at York is not open all year as it was last winter, however Knaresbourgh is to stay open. I wonder if the club are trying different  sites out to see what the usage is in any area.

    We like going away over winter its one of the rare  times you can tour in our country. We are going to join the other club as well to give us more choice this winter.

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2017 #9
    I think Beechwood is going to get a revamp for 2018, maybe that is why it will not be open all winter?
  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2017 #10

    The Club opened BG in response to Rowntree Park flooding I think? Do agree it would probably be popular though, but might depend on bylaws, leasing terms etc....?

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2017 #11

    Yes you're right TTDA, I remember that now, we like BG and agree it would be a popular choice.

    Didn't know that Kj, wonder what they are going to do, seems fine to me. I'm sure there are other sites in more need undecided

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2017 #12

    It is a busy site so would probably benefit from more toilets and showers, and the existing ones are starting to show their age, though very clean as usual.  A possible re-arrangement of the pitches may be planned too  as some large pitches are designated non-awning due to them being too close together.

    We were pitched opposite the block and noticed that all the big bushes behind those pitches had been removed and some new hedging or small shrubs planted.  It looked really bare!

    On one day a van marked "Survey Solutions" arrived and 3 men seemed to be tracing and mapping the drains.

    And of course the wifi needs improving!

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited October 2017 #13

    There seem to be very few club sites in Scotland that are open all year. So any touring holiday in Scotland in Autumn, Winter or early Spring would mean having to use CLs especially in the far north.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2017 #14

    There aren't many CLs in the far north of Scotland, Malcolm. There are a few decent commercial sites but I don't know if they stay open. I imagine the demand for pitches in the far north in winter is very low. 

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited October 2017 #15

    That's a bit unfortunate for those who would prefer to visit Scotland outside the peak summer season. It's mostly sites near big cities that stay open all year. Just 35 out of about 200 sites which is less than one-fifth! I can't believe that the demand is less than twenty percent in the off season months!

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #16

    I can't believe that the demand is less than twenty percent in the off season months!

    I can Malcolm. Folk with kids use school hols. Folk with limited leave availability use warmer months.

    The 50 pitches on site here had 5 outfits on thursday. On weekend 11 or 12.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #17

    We head home now and won't be using the caravan before mid December for 15 nights and then not again until April I expect.

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2017 #18

    Plenty of time outside peak summer season, peak is only July and August .....school holidays.

    Still leaves April, May, June and September, plus many sites are open in March and October.

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2017 #19

    We venture out mainly April-October, but have occasionally been away in March and November.

    We generally stay home July/August to work on house and garden, and November-March is time for family, hobbies and inside jobs. 

  • Grant705
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    edited October 2017 #20

    We hope to get away twice more this year but it will be weather dependent and pretty local. Scotland is too far for us this late in the year

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2017 #21

    I would also suspect demand is fairly low. 

    Not the far north, but Grantown on Spey is a very nice affiliated site, open all year. I remember phoning them one January, to make a booking for later in the year,  and they had two feet of snow. Whilst I know they also get some very nice winter weather, for me the risks are too high. The journey up the A9 alone can be challenging at that time of year. So although we have occasionally taken the van out in winter, it has always been closer to home. Even one of those trips was cancelled by the CC, because Chatsworth was snowed up.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2017 #22

    We tour all year. Never have a problem finding a site. Some lovely CLs are open all year, complete with HS, loos and showers, and many other extras. Some great events on in Winter months, and snow usually predictable a few days in advance.

  • brue
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    edited October 2017 #23

    This is Glenshee in September this year....can you spot the snow poles?!  wink One of the reasons there are just a handful of sites open in Scotland during the winter, everything depends on the weather doesn't it? Same for Bodmin Moor and many UK places in a bad winter. We seem to have avoided this problem recently but it's probably why not everyone wants to venture out unless they have to when it happens.

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2017 #24

    The incidence of snow is fairly predictable, often several days in advance. However, the one time we were snowed off, the severity was totally unexpected. Clearly we all like different things. For us now, towing  over 400 miles from home in winter weather conditions is not one of them. Particularly when there are major mountain ranges in the way. Local (within 130 miles) still relatively happy with.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2017 #25

    Us too, although we doubt that we'd head to the north of Scotland at that time. We've only once had to cancel a trip in the last 20+ yrs because of the weather, when we couldn't get out of our drive because of ice. Have been snowed in on a CL a couple of time, so waited there till the roads were clear for moving on.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2017 #26

    750,000 swallows can't be wrong. wink

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2017 #27

    Similar to us, Late July and August for garden

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited October 2017 #28

    Does that mean we can't visit John O Groats in the winter?

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2017 #29

    If you can find a site open up there, which will probably be difficult. Plus of course the 750 miles of driving, each way. Personally I would leave it until May.😀 Days are also very short in December / January. While  in May there is light until 10 or 11 pm.

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2017 #30

    As Steve said, probably not impossible, but I am struggling to understand why you would want to!

    Daylight hours will be short, the weather will likely not be great, much better to go between April and October.

    It is a long way to go, and fuel costs will be high, so you would want to take enough time, and have the hopefully  good weather,  to see as much as possible on the trip.

    No fun spending your time sitting in the van watching the rain!

     

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2017 #31

    Found this one Malc, open all year not far from JoG. Has electric hook up available, plus WC and shower.

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    You could book early for May.👍